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AP: Startling findings in Tillman probe
Yahoo ^ | 11/9/06

Posted on 11/09/2006 6:07:04 AM PST by Mr. Brightside

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For God's sake, let that warrior rest in peace.


21 posted on 11/09/2006 6:29:43 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: Mr. Brightside

In summary, these American soldiers were tired, hungry, low on ammunition/supplies, performing a difficult mission in a remote, hostile environment/climate against a treacherous enemy and they take two friendly-fire casualties. Oh yea, let's send 'em to jail (/s).


22 posted on 11/09/2006 6:30:50 AM PST by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: raybbr

Exactly! WHO heard him say this? A survivor? A shooter? The AP imbed?


23 posted on 11/09/2006 6:35:36 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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These soldiers already feel horrible enough, and will be haunted until their graves. Naming them serves no good purpose.


24 posted on 11/09/2006 6:36:03 AM PST by vollmond (Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Interesting read. Let's hope this information is used by the military to prevent blue-on-blue fires.

But folks are right - I doubt the information is being reported to inform readers, and more to point fingers of blame at President Bush, SECDEF Rumsfeld, etc.


25 posted on 11/09/2006 6:38:32 AM PST by Fury
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To: listenhillary
Because you can never be too well-informed. Knowledge is power, FRiend, even when that knowledge is not to our liking.

I, for one, would like to get to the bottom of this, if only so that the military may learn from it, and to provide closure to the fambly.

26 posted on 11/09/2006 6:38:58 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (There will only be peace on Earth when Mecca becomes a glass parking lot.)
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To: 2banana

"but that is SOP for SF units"

I'll go further than that. Being tired, short on ammo, water and chow is the norm in most military operations that last longer than a day. This article shows a remarkable lack of knowledge or experience on military operations.


27 posted on 11/09/2006 6:40:46 AM PST by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: Columbine
They won't rest until they prove George Bush pulled the trigger personally.

Yup. Bush is a Cowboy fan and he wanted Tillman out of the way.

28 posted on 11/09/2006 6:43:23 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

Fine! YOU track down the three that are no longer in the Army and you can interrogate them yourself.

Quit posting shat articles from an organization that provides much of the propaganda that is helping the terrorists crush the will of the USA to do what is right and an organization that cheers in harmony with "those who love death" with each blow to the USA.

This shat happen in war. Get over it.


29 posted on 11/09/2006 6:46:18 AM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: Mr. Brightside
"But The Associated Press has combed through the results of 2 1/4 years of investigations — reviewed thousands of pages of internal Army documents, interviewed dozens of people familiar with the case — and uncovered some startling findings.

Why is A(f)P) getting access to restricted information? More B.S> spin. As if P.T. would stand up while under fire, friendly or otherwize, and wave his arms and yell don't shoot! I'm Pat Tillman!

Yea right. Thats' sooo believable.

30 posted on 11/09/2006 6:49:23 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Mr. Brightside
"They walked the landscape with surviving witnesses. They found a rock stained with the blood of the victim. They re-enacted the killings"

After two years of wind and rain? NOT likely. What kind of fairy tale B.S. is this? How can jornalists who weren't there re-enact anything? Do non- existant "blood stained rocks" talk?

31 posted on 11/09/2006 6:53:04 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Mr. Brightside
Had it happened in the United States, police would have quickly cordoned off the area with "crime scene" tape and determined whether a law had been broken.

Just like they did at Gettysburg and Antietam?

Had it happened in the United States, the police would have run away screaming for the Army.

32 posted on 11/09/2006 6:57:45 AM PST by Jim Noble (To preserve the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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To: BurtSB

Absolutely. It's a tragedy sure -- but FF happens in every war since forever. Tillman is a hero and this story is a disservice to his memory and to the other soldiers present.


33 posted on 11/09/2006 6:58:53 AM PST by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: Mr. Brightside

The hits just keep on coming.


34 posted on 11/09/2006 7:01:17 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: raybbr
While I am not 100% sure, I am pretty sure that if they had committed a crime like murder in the military they could still be tried under the military after they were discharged.

No. Once out of the military, the UCMJ no longer applies to you. It applies only to the military. Perhaps a federal charge could be brought, but not a UCMJ. Now, if the person were a retiree, or a national guard or reservist who was back in his home town and not actually in uniform at the time, back at his civilian job, then yes, that person could be brought back. But, not a civilian who simply did his enlistment time and was now out.

35 posted on 11/09/2006 7:07:58 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America lost it's mind Nov. 7th. The Republic has now started its decline.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Can't they the hero rest in peace?


36 posted on 11/09/2006 7:13:33 AM PST by HotTubDave
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To: Mr. Brightside

It's nothing more than the "fog of war". It was an awful tragedy, no doubt, but if the guy was just some average Joe from Kansas, instead of Pat Tillman, football superstar, it would barely register a mention. Friendly fire is a part of warfare, deal with it. As the LibDems like to say, it's time to MOVE ON...


37 posted on 11/09/2006 7:22:37 AM PST by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: listenhillary
What the fk is your point posting this sht on FR?

What the fk is YOUR point?

If you don't like it, don't click it.

38 posted on 11/09/2006 7:26:07 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

"War is a series of calamaties that result in victory." - Clemenceau


39 posted on 11/09/2006 7:27:40 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Exactly so. The AP couldn't care less about Tillman's death.

They're not just indifferent, they're probably glad it happened. It gave them some propaganda fodder.

Cordially,

40 posted on 11/09/2006 7:27:51 AM PST by Diamond
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