Posted on 11/08/2006 6:35:06 AM PST by flixxx
THIS ONE IS PRETTY EASY TO EXPLAIN. Republicans lost the House and probably the Senate because of Iraq, corruption, and a record of taking up big issues and then doing nothing on them. Of these, the war was by far the biggest factor. Unpopular wars trump good economies and everything else. President Truman learned this in 1952, as did President Johnson in 1968. Now, it was President Bush's turn, and since his name wasn't on the ballot, his party took the hit.
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The Defense Appropriations bill won't be passed until late summer 2007 at the earliest, and won't be implemented until Oct 2007, which is the beginning of FY 2008. I would hope that if the Dims manage to pass any lesser bills before then that cut funding for Iraq, President Bush would veto them. If not, then the WOT wasn't so important to him all along, and I don't believe that's true, so he would veto.
If the appropriations are cut effective Oct 2007, the Bush administration will probably have already begun to 'redeploy' by then. IOW, the point might be moot by then. Or not.
Personally, I think you're full of shit and hope it's your city and not mine that gets it next.
Grandma doesn't need to mention the "i" word. She just needs to keep investigations going.
>>Not much to add...should be an interesting 2 years with (hopefully) a recharged Right in time for 2008...<<
Yup.. This could be a good thing in the long run. If housing tanks, and the economy with it, as much as I suspect it will in 2007-2008, this could be a VERY good thing.
It takes a bit of twisted logic to think the election was a lesson for the Republicans to move right rather than left.
>>I don't disagree with this. Problem is the RATS leave us in a very vulnerable position. The terrorists have to love this.<<
It may be that we need a serious attack to get us off our butts.
We did use "overpowering force" to defeat Saddam and his military. The idea that we could/should carpetbomb Iraq into the stone age is nonsense. We were liberators and used a strategy to deal with the postwar period to include a stable, democratically elected government. Our biggest mistake, using 20/20 hindsight, was not taking out the militias. But you can't unring a bell. You need to deal with the reality on the ground now. FYI: We were welcomed by many Iraqis as liberators. Also, the Iraqi government wants us to stay.
Someone would have t be in REAL denail to see that it hasnt and wont happen that way and that looking back we should have just bombed Saddam into oblivion and screw what the rest of the world thought.
You don't bomb one man or his regime into oblivion. There are million Iraqis to deal with. We had to aid the Japanese and Germans to get back on their feet after a devastating war that destroyed their countries' infrastructure and political system. I think we are winning in Iraq and should continue to support the current government, which has been in power about 6 months. We need patience and resolve to achieve long term objectives, i.e., a stable, democratic Iraq, which will not be a threat to its neighbors or a sancturary for terrorists.
The time to throw temper tantrums is during the primaries. I think I'll take a 2 yr break from FR and come back and try to rally those "true conservatives" you speak about to stop Hillary in '08. Maybe by then they will have come to their senses, or maybe not, maybe they'll still be whining.
I think this DUmmy's city (NY) already "got it." Guess it wasn't devastating enough for him.
I guess you missed all of those terorist attacks on the U.S. while Klintoon was President. You must also have missed how proud the 'Rats were of trying to kill important antiterrorism tools like the Patriot Act, and the Terrorist Surveillance Program. The 'rats are demonstrably not serious about national security, and a lot of innocent people will pay dearly for it.
" The rest of America woke up"
We have to wonder when we will ALL not wake up. Democrats and security??? What a joke.[Not a botched one either] The next 911 will be nuclear.
Well, then I guess we get to see what the utterly corrupt, totally self-absorbed, cowardly new politicos do, now that they run everything.
Ought to be interesting, yes?
Nancy's top priority is to raise the minimum wage. That should be all you need to know about how important the war is to them.
Hi, there!
I'm a busy guy, so I'll just say "bye."
>>The end of America as we know it.<<
I agree, except the America I knew ended a long time ago. The Republicans were reprehensible. They had the power, and were pathetic.
Ultimately though, it is not the politicians that are responsible, it is the voters.
If you want to know what is wrong with the US, just go to the mall and watch it's citizens. Turn on the TV and watch their programming. It is a seriously sick culture and that just comes to the surface in the quality of leaders we choose, on BOTH sides of the aisle.
IMHO, the dims realized that in order to survive they had to move to the center in at least a few areas. Lampson in TX, Webb in VA, and a few others are examples. But the overall lesson of our defeat is that WE WERE NOT FIRED UP ENOUGH TO FIGHT! I talking to that guy who looks at me in the mirror every morning. We have been too complacent, too confident, too stingy with our contributions. I swear that between today and 2008, I will get in the game and knock some heads. The war will be won or lost at the ballot box. This war WILL go on for the next 50-100 years. We lost a political battle; we will not lose the war.
" The rest of America woke up"
We have to wonder when we will ALL not wake up. Democrats and security??? What a joke.[Not a botched one either] The next 911 will be nuclear."
Not according to Rodent...there are no such things as terrorists who wish to do us harm. Bush/Cheney and Rove just made them up to "scare" us.
It's not a matter of right vs. left...it's a matter of integrity. Do what you said you came to do.
It was that very trait that enabled Ronald Reagan to do as much as he did in the face of an opposition congress. Simply put, he did what he said he was going to do.
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