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To: Brian_Baldwin

How much was Reagan to blame for his midterm losses. Get over it. The Prez is the ONLY good thing about the GOP right now. Has been that way for some time.


2 posted on 11/07/2006 10:20:58 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

The President will have to stand firm, get out his veto pen and be prepared to do battle with congress on a daily basis. They'll be relentless.


9 posted on 11/07/2006 10:23:22 PM PST by albie
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To: pissant
All Americans have the God given right to be stupid and all the Republicans and self appointed conservatives that stay home and/or didn`t support the President 100% exercised that right.
30 posted on 11/07/2006 10:27:23 PM PST by bybybill (`IF TH E RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: pissant
President Bush is responsible. He should have taken elocution lessons on a daily basis. His mind is good, his communication skills zero. I fear that he was kept out of the loop about the reality of the turning tide. The good news is that gay marriage went down, (for now) and that the conservatives democrats seem to have taken their party back. (for now). The president will regret the day he tied the hands of the military and began fighting the war according to opinion polls. Shock and awe worked, whine and gravel fails every time. Pathetic.
38 posted on 11/07/2006 10:29:11 PM PST by Binstence (Live freep or die)
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To: pissant
Let's not fool ourselves. If we become "Party uber Alles" robots then we are as doomed as we would be if we voted Dem. I for one was not an enthusiastic Bush supporter in this election cycle. I have been very troubled by four specific things:

1) We have been mucking around in Iraq longer than it took us to win WWII. The politically correct approach to winning a war will not work. Bad guys need to be killed, not counseled.

2) Spending and government growth are way out of control. So we got a token tax cut. If a small one was good, a big one would have been better.

3) Our country and certain western states have been invaded and colonized by Mexico and the president has turned a deaf ear to it in hopes of getting the (illegal?) Hispanic vote. Hey George, how'd that work for you?

4) Polls over principle governing. The party has consistently worked against strong conservatives in the interest of RINO's and "moderates". Hey Carl Rove, how'd that work for you?

This election was not a rejection of conservative principles, it was firing an incompetent work force.

55 posted on 11/07/2006 10:32:28 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: pissant
With the facts staring you right in the face, you Bushbots STILL don't GET it.

True, somethings - like Foley, were beyond Bush's control.

But an intelligent, articulate President who was true to the values which put him in office twice would have been able to minimize the effects of an inevitable fluctuation in power in Washington.

Bush was and is right to a great degree on the war against terror, but has failed miserably in foreign policy objectives. Even there, such as the failure to employ "profiling" he has been wanting.

He turned what SHOULD have been a quick blitzkrieg in Iraq, followed by another in Iran and Syria, into what he said he would never do - nation-build. His attempt to create a "democracy" in an artificial tribal state dominated by a murderous sectarian religion, an area in which democracy never existed before, was simply too much for the American people to absorb in lives lost by American soldiers. Bush's military actions in the Middle East were initially correct, but he showed his "family values" by following in the footsteps of his incredibly inept - and far from conservative - father. Our continued presence in Iraq as targets of sectarian lunatics without taking an active initiative against those terror states supporting them is illogical and counterproductive. Now with the Democrat victory, America will do what it always does when the Dems take over - cut and run - and give the Muslims moral support in their ideological battle with western values and society.

Bush gave us one conservative Supreme Court justice, but had to be strong armed by his own constituents into giving us another.

He reeled from one foolish decision to another - failing to destroy Hezbollah when given the chance, defending the Dubai Port deal until forced to abandon it, digging his heels in over amnesty for illegal invaders when the overwhelming majority of Americans opposed it, and failing to step up to the plate and put mavericks in his own party like John McCain in their place when they crossed him.

The sad part of all this is the Dems will find they will be dealing with a far more compliant, "moderate" Bush than ever before, a man who never before used the veto when he should have, will not use it now. My prediction is they will never impeach him. He will be far more valuable for them as a negative portrait of what a Republican president should not allow himself to become - a portrait which can only help them in 2008.

Rove's master plan of pandering to illegals in the hope that the Hispanic vote will be secured has been exposed for the failure it is.

Finally, Bush's total ineptitude in intelligently articulating what his POSITIVE policies were, led to a fatal communication gap with the electorate.

It will take ANOTHER Newt Gingrich to fashion a populist, conservative Republican policy to regain control of Congress and America and undo the failures of the Bush Administration in connecting with the Republican base, securing the Reagan Democrats, evangelical Christians and conservatives.

The only "good" thing about this scenario is that most RINOs up for election like Tom Kean Junior, won't be in office to help a chastened Bush and the Dems achieve their social objectives - objectives which can only assure a Republican victory in 2008 if the Republican national leadership develops some backbone, and puts the blame where it properly lies, instead of putting on the traditional defeated Republican sackcloth and ashes, and blaming their ostensible but in fact very NON-
"conservative" values for this defeat.

Its time for the Republicans to regroup, re-assess the damage and the reasons for it, and learn from their tactical mistakes which contributed to this defeat. Its time for Bush's own party - what's left of it - to take STRONG and VISIBLE stands against the inevitable Bush-Democrat initiatives which will follow this defeat - like the amnesty for illegal invaders.

I, for one, hope NEVER to see another Bush in national office. They are all closet liberals who are closer to RINOs philosophically than they ever were to mainstream Republicans.

The Democrats never waver in their loyalty to their extreme left-wing base, although adopting the masque of a conservative appearance in areas where it would benefit them in the midwest, west and south. Unless the Republicans "come home" to their own base, abandon the philosophies of the Lincoln Chaffees, Rudy Giulianis,
John McCains and Tom Keans, the Republican party will become dead as a dodo and their constituents will coalesce around a new party after 2008 - one which more adequately expresses and defends traditional American values and opposes liberalism and European socialism.
239 posted on 11/08/2006 1:07:30 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: pissant

Amen.


241 posted on 11/08/2006 1:11:02 AM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: pissant

Yea right whatever. The Repubs should learn they can't act like Neo-CON clowns and expect to win. Big government, nanny state, deficit exploding, world cop playin life wasting neo-CON fools. Whose brillant idea was this on how to get elected? Oh right the head Neo-CON in chief. Too bad they didnt listen to Pat Buchanan.


275 posted on 11/08/2006 4:59:05 AM PST by Greg Weston
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