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How much is President Bush and Bushies to Blame for this Loss?
opinion | 11/7/2006 | brianbaldwin

Posted on 11/07/2006 10:19:51 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin

This loss is going to have historical consequences – how much is President Bush to blame for this loss? Is it too early to say that the blame for this loss rests squarely with President Bush and the “Bushbots”?

Bush? Or is it Bush and the RINOs? . . . And worst of all to blame, the fault of what some talk show hosts call the Harriet Myers Storm-trooper crowd of Bushbots who simply would bray like a donkey whenever conservatives brought up the obvious problems with Bush from illegal immigration, to port deals, to his globalist friends and massive spending?

Well, it isn’t going to just be me saying that President Bush and the bots wasted too many years, they had the power and blew it.

Only in the last couple weeks did Bush start to try to get the message out about the good economy, but the fact is there were many conservatives who kept saying this is a winning message for a long time, if only the Republicans would get serious about getting the message out --- and the reply from the Bushbots was “the DOW and the stock market isn’t the same as the economy”, ignoring that the important message about the economy wasn’t just the stock market but much more.

The Republicans were on a dog and pony show with the “Bushies”, of which some now call the “Bushbots”, and years were wasted with what many now say were idiots who followed someone who never was a conservative anyway. The reality might just start to sink in that Bush just used some conservative lingo to take these idiots for a ride.

Yes, the President was “on track” regarding the war on terrorism – and yes, he and everyone else were correct that this war won’t be over in one or two years. The point being – no, Bush didn’t own the adage that this will not be a short war, but will be a long war, perhaps decades long – and everyone who understood the enemy said the same, and were saying so before even Bush took office in 2000.

In fact, many of these conservatives were saying Usama bin Laden and the Islamic terrorists et all hit the Trade Center once and he was coming back to finish the job, but Bush was too busy running around with Vicente Fox talking amnesty to listen.

But don’t worry, Bush will probably get his amnesty now. No, I’m not talking about the amnesty for Iraqi “insurgents” who killed American soldiers (no amnesty for our soldiers being held for “war crimes?”), no I talking about amnesty for illegal aliens from Mexico. And one may as well say exactly what we are talking about here – this isn’t about amnesty for illegal aliens from Jamaica, nor Russians, and such – it’s all about illegal aliens from Mexico, which once given will be irreversible, America will not be the same ever again and no one will be able to turn it around once done, because it’s done.

The best hope in stopping the Bush amnesty was a Republican victory in the House in 2006, but the Bushbots sunk it for us all and now with the Democrats running the show you are going to see an amnesty bill forwarded and Bush will sign it with a smile as a “great example of bipartisan leadership”.

The funding for the war in Iraq will likely now be cut off, a front in the battle on terrorism of which Bush wasn’t fighting as a “war” against the terrorists anymore – yes, let me say that President Bush has been doing a good job regarding the war on terrorism so lets just get that out there now - but, it seemed more like he was thinking the war on that particular front was over and he was “building Democracy” and sure didn’t want to accidentally kill any Iraqi civilians in the process because it wouldn’t look good in the New York Times and CNN.

Anyway, for sure the Democrats are going to have the leverage to screw us up on that one and cut and run not just in Iraq but everywhere. If and when the Democrats get there way, which they likely now will, what that tells the world, since Vietnam, and now Iraq which really was a punch drunk easy war as far as any war goes, the message to the world will now be that America can never win another war.

And that is really bad news since a lot of Americans are going to die as a result.

What that means is Iran now runs the region. And billions and billions and billions of dinars will sponsor further terrorism as they dance in the street having defeated the great Satan – and the Islamic terrorist with a likely victory in Iraq will do exactly what they already said they are going to do: they will turn their attention to overthrowing the governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan.

Pakistan already has the nuclear bomb.

The governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan are next on the head-chopping list, of which the Islamic fundamentalists may likely have very good success on instigating the axe. Because, at least Bush did a good job on the war on terrorism, but you can absolutely count on it that if the Democrats are going to call the shots, the region is going to explode; the Islamic terrorist front will be global like no ones business.

The idiots have been saying the war on Iraq fomented more Islamic terrorists.

The fact is, the growth of Islamic terrorism is an historical trend of which was escalating before Iraq, was on the march and would have been as life-size now whether we invaded Iraq or not, in fact likely even more so if their march wasn’t tripped up a bit in old Babylon.

We have a great economy.

But the economy won’t be great after the terrorist hit us again. In fact, when it happens, don’t be surprised how fast you are going to lose your job.

Democrats running the House. Now just watch the war. The war isn’t over. It’s now going to get bigger than ever.

Well, I guess some are saying, with the Dems running things, they take the blame for things, too. The problem with this is, the old media will still blame everything on Bush. So, unless the American people figure out that what is about to happen to America was the fault of the Democrats, then we are in big trouble.

But we were already in big trouble with this election. And a lot of Americans didn’t understand the consequences now, and this will be the same crowd who won’t understand later when everything blows up in our face.

I suppose some are thinking that all I have been doing is the same as the Democrats – to simply blame Bush for everything.

No, I don’t blame Bush for everything. I blame myself. Because, for some reason, I didn’t get involved enough, involved with other conservatives to get the conservative message to Americans.

Thank you President Bush, you have had to deal with a lot of crap from the old media. As far as I’m concerned, I consider them an enemy of Democracy.

In fact, I consider the Democratic Party an enemy of Democracy.

And, thank you President Bush, since 911 we, America, hasn’t had another major terrorist attack on our soil. I give the President thanks for this. It has been a blessing.

I don’t think this blessing is going to last much longer. Not after tonight.


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To: Arkinsaw
Anybody ever thought that it was a combination of all?

IMHO - You are correct. A bunch of singularly bad issues all added up. Katrina Debacle, Long Iraq War, Illegal Immigration Issue, Meirs Appointment, Foley Resignation, Lack of Fiscal Spending Control, MidTerm Election History, Weak Congressional Leadership, Delay Scandal in Congress, Numerous Close Races for Incumbent Republicans, MSM Attacks, etc. etc..

261 posted on 11/08/2006 2:54:07 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Dosa26

This loss has to do with the pathetic prosecution of the war in Iraq. The State Dept and Dept. of Defense are so worried about fighting a PC war that they will not let the military fight the war as they have been taught. The results: War drags on, lots of US casualties, people get tired of never decisively winning and finishing the war. The only way to win is to deliver a crushing blow...and we haven't done that to anyone since WWII.

This loss, also, has to do with the lack of strong leadership in Congress by Republicans. And it has to do with Bush's poor communication skills inhibiting him from being able to rally Republican leaders and Republican voters to work for the program. Just look at the list of failures that took place WITH a Republican controlled Congress. Don't get me wrong, I love the Pres...he just can't get the message out effectively.


262 posted on 11/08/2006 2:57:19 AM PST by RouxStir (US out of the UN and UN out of the US!)
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To: keepitreal; Brian_Baldwin
I agree. I blame this squarely on the pundits who are supposedly on our side, who have complained and mocked Bush relentlessly since Katrina. Once they didn't stand with him on Katrina, the Rats smelled blood.

We then suffered through attacks on Meiers, the NSA security, Dubai ports, etc. Those creeps act like they are so smart, and they are nothing but worthless sideline carpers who don't contribute a thing to our side, but suck up money we could spend on other things instead of their books and magazines. To heck with them.

And because of this constant criticism, one-issue Republicans stayed home. There were even some who stayed home in Indiana because the Republican governor instituted Daylight Savings Time...real smart, huh?

Pfui. Anyone who comes on here blaming Bush supporters for this loss is a complete jerk, and that is YOU, Brian Baldwin!

263 posted on 11/08/2006 2:59:34 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.```````````````````````)
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To: RouxStir
Don't get me wrong, I love the Pres...he just can't get the message out effectively.

Along with the lib media...I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately some of our "special" citizens need a constant reminder they can relate to, feeling there pain and what not...You just know Bush ain't tellin you that pap and lots of independents want it.

264 posted on 11/08/2006 3:18:23 AM PST by Dosa26
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I blame it on morons like Brian_Baldwin.


265 posted on 11/08/2006 3:21:10 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
How much? Entirely--that's how much.

The Republicans would have swept to a huge victory if they had not alienated their base support by their:

1. Failure to close the Mexican border and halt illegal immigration,

2. Failure to nullify the effects of the Kelo decision--immediately, and

3. Expansion of federal entitlements to include prescription drugs!

FOOLS!

266 posted on 11/08/2006 3:31:30 AM PST by Savage Beast ("We can either fight the Democrats at the polls or...fight terrorists in our streets." ~jmaroneps37)
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To: Howlin

Agreed.

There are idiots who want to have a government like the Italians because of their so called "principles".

Well, now we have it, thanks to them.


267 posted on 11/08/2006 3:32:07 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: sissyjane

"If we had a united front, this would not have happened.

Flame away....not really interested in your response anyway."

No Flame.....A United Front would have gone a long way to avoiding the present outcome of the election, however, the Republicans would have had to have united around a conservative agenda to win. They didn't we lost.


268 posted on 11/08/2006 3:33:34 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Brian_Baldwin
This is really about creeping socialism. Government's purpose is to take care of us. The idea of people having to take care of themselves is politically unpopular.

There is a lot of disillusionment by those who previously voted Republican because their Republican-held government didn't reduce the size and control of government. Unfortunately, non-defense federal spending has grown MUCH faster with Republicans in control than it did when the Democrats were in control.

Look at the pig trough of congressional budget "earmarks" (expensive pet projects) that have exploded the federal budget during Republican leadership.

Where is a conservative to go?

The name-calling won't help. If you sell out your most faithful, you can't win.

If the conservatives lost heart and stayed home, who was in power to let them down?

I don't like the personal attacks I am reading here. If you want conservatives like me to abandon this site completely, keep up the personal attacks.

269 posted on 11/08/2006 3:38:23 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Well, it isn’t going to just be me saying that President Bush and the bots wasted too many years, they had the power and blew it.

Stated perfectly.


270 posted on 11/08/2006 3:40:57 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Thank you President Bush, you have had to deal with a lot of crap from the old media.

Yeah, and you took it all with a smile. You own the bully pulpit, Mr. Bush, but YOU DON'T USE IT WORTH A CRAP. We are at war AT HOME AND ABROAD. You could have fought EVERY LAST LIE from the Democrats and their media, but you just let them lay out there and metastasize. Your silence is deafening.

271 posted on 11/08/2006 3:46:33 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Perception of Iraq not going as well as people like.

Republicans spending

Democrats showing some intellect on running "Conservative" Democrats which kept them in power before '94

Failure of the GOP to offset the "conservative" Dem (Need to find a strategy to fight the facade)

Failure to campaign against the media and calling them out (Hell, the media does not even try to hide it anymore)

Pres. Bush failure to attack Democrats (You can't be political friends or bring "unity" in this day and age) Why is Sandy Berger a free man?
272 posted on 11/08/2006 3:53:19 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Amen


273 posted on 11/08/2006 4:56:46 AM PST by TheFrog
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I would say the House and Senate rode his coat tails for three elections.


274 posted on 11/08/2006 4:58:48 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: pissant

Yea right whatever. The Repubs should learn they can't act like Neo-CON clowns and expect to win. Big government, nanny state, deficit exploding, world cop playin life wasting neo-CON fools. Whose brillant idea was this on how to get elected? Oh right the head Neo-CON in chief. Too bad they didnt listen to Pat Buchanan.


275 posted on 11/08/2006 4:59:05 AM PST by Greg Weston
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To: Sir_Ed

I think it was the off year hit. The same one that MOST presidents take. I'd imagine there are exceptions (FDR in WWII, Clinton after impeachment), but Bush had no such exception. As seriously as we may take the War, most of America is seeing only a running total of US troops lost.

For all of the wailing, we're still around the historical average (I think it's 6 senators, and something like 30 house members) of 'mid term casualties.'

I also think (MHO, of course) that there are a lot of things that we, as opposed to the Dems, hammer out in public that ought to be handled in private. That is to say, 'throw the bums out' in the primary, as opposed to the general, election.

The gripping hand, though, is that it's a lot easier to be unified in public when you don't really have to propose anything. Take immigration as an example. We're all hot and bothered by it, from a number of different points of view. What position do the dems have? That their against us! So, a vote for the D column (or a non-vote in the R) becomes a vote for or against border enforcement, for or against amnesty, for or against compromise, take your pick.

Their policy this year was identical to Carroll's Red Queen's take on the meaning of words: their policy meant exactly what they wanted it to mean at any given moment; it could change on a dime.

As you pointed out, this was an across the board rebuke to the party in charge. Yes, even an anti-war guy (Chafee) lost.


276 posted on 11/08/2006 5:13:57 AM PST by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: keepitreal

Well, they can now say they've taught those bums a lesson.

Bet it gives 'em a big case of the 'warm fuzzies.'


277 posted on 11/08/2006 5:16:48 AM PST by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: Greg Weston

Neo cons??? The only neo cons are folks like Bill Kristol and his ilk. And they don't much like Bush.


278 posted on 11/08/2006 6:33:44 AM PST by pissant
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To: Howlin; Brian_Baldwin
Is it too early to say that the blame for this loss rests squarely with the Bush Haters, of which you are a member in good standing?

RINO's are an endangered species, you're just late in figuring that out. Blackbird.

279 posted on 11/08/2006 6:35:27 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: NinoFan
You think this is gloating? Try reading it again. And it's "folks like you" who are responsible for what happened tonight.

It may take a few weeks for that to set in on the chattering monkey's. Their days of shouting down Conservatives at every turn are long gone. That reality will either set in, or they will be wondering around in the minority for decades to come. It is their choice. The RATpublican thing didn't work out too well for them. Blackbird.

280 posted on 11/08/2006 6:43:50 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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