[Caipirabob]

Wow, barely an ounce of sanity exhibited by a DUhmmie. I'm impressed. Not.

You know, I mourn the division in our nation that both parties can't at least stand united on issues like this. It's a tragedy that the opposition has so decidedly gone off the deep end as to be supportive of America's enemies.

In the Civil War, one reflects on how while divisions over politics were strong enough to go to war, that the general traights that define Americans such as God, family and country (even if country=state back then) were predominant values among Americans on both sides. From that perspective you could say the combat was truly brother against brother.

However the divide today is so polarizing as to make the opposition appear completely alien, not only politically, but they seem to have diametrically opposed values. It's like matter versus anti-matter. Put the two together and you don't want to be around for the results.

My point is that I believe the divisions are so vast between both sides that I don't believe they can be reconciled. The implications there are obvious. We'll need to continue as always to politically castrate the opposition, whether they are in power or not. Yet I don't believe we'll ever be able to resolve the threat they represent within the political structure of this country.

[Sally'sConcerns]

Part of their problem is they take everything as a personal assault directly upon them. As an example, I'd like to know what civil liberties any of them have personally lost? I'd have to say they've lost no liberties at all yet they act as if it's being done directly to them.

Their idea of what represents torture is extremely out of whack too. The people responsible for the idiocy that went on at Abu Grahib were prosecuted. We punished those that stepped over the line. We didn't use shredders and the like. I know which I'd choose if given the choice and it sure wouldn't be living under Hussein.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Time will tell...I've been a student of history a long time, and the vitriol in the polarization right now reminds me of some of the climate in the 1850s...