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Posted on 11/01/2006 10:48:21 AM PST by steve-b
If you're one of my kids, then never.
The Comstock Laws were opposed and effectively overturned through the efforts of one Margaret Sanger--if you know anything about her history, it figures she's a Left icon.
Unless the Comstock Laws and these later efforts involved Taliban-like Enforcers from the Ministry of Vice and Virtue, I don't see the problem. Even though I am someone,like most Americans, who had Plenty of pre marital sex , I don't have too much of a problem with the Government trying to balance the "Condoms-on-bananas-in-the-public-classrooms" movement, by spreading the abstinence agenda. Is it a waste of money? Probably, but it might be worth it to hear the teeth-gnashing by the Left, as they make fools of themselves by attacking after all what is only a sensible suggestion.
The Comstock laws were becoming increasingly unpopular, and Sanger's celebrity was due in no small part to her success in getting them overturned. Comstock also insisted that abortion be considered a form of birth control under the law, in order to bolster the argument that contraception was morally equivalent to murder. That doctrine had unintended consequences down to road.
The Mrs. Robinson Act of 2006?
ROTFLOL
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A NEED is something for SURVIVAL, yourself.
Sex is NOT a need. Why should I have to explain that you're not going to die if you don't have sex? It should be intuitively obvious.
I've never heard of a monk - or nun (you know, we WOMEN do count in these things) - dying of no sex.
If one MALE needs to clear out his pipes, please himself. It wouldn't have to be emptied into another person.
Linking into the original subject, avoiding sex outside marriage avoids *ever* having children who are subjected to in-ideal situations. It is selfish and potentially puts totally innocent new people in peril. That is *the* prime reason for the "moral" of avoiding extramarital sex.
Milwaukee has implemented something along the line of a market approach. Some of the schools are specialty schools, such as a German immersion school, a school focused on the arts, college prep schools or parents can apply for their neighborhood school. Parents choose 3 schools. Those who are "returning" to a school get the first spots. Siblings get the next spots, if they've made that school their first choice. The rest of the spots get filled in a lottery type of thing. I'm not sure, but the child may have to also qualify to get into the specialty schools. Choices include charter schools (private) & some suburban schools take some city students, via Chapter 220 (a Federal program). The original voucher funding was done by private donation, but it's now done with state funding.
The 99% school would be private. Anyone moving into the community could place their children into it. The school is also open to the 1%. The school was created because of mandates on public schools in the area of sex education.
Why?
Sex with ones' self, whether male or female, is still sex. People do it because they "need" sex. There are lots of things in life that can put "totally innocent new people in peril," such as driving a car, small swallable objects, and dirty hands.
LOL - "totally innocent NEW" means brand-new babies, not adults. They have no say in what situation they're born into. Best if that situation is carefully planned and doesn't just "happen".
As for pleasing oneself - at least it doesn't get anyone ELSE in trouble - neither a "partner", nor an innocent child. However, I'll say it again - it is NOT a "need". You do not need to please yourself to survive. If an *instinctual* whole male dog can survive his whole 12 years w/o "pleasing himself", I think humans can too.
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Dammit, what if its already too late?
Hey, why don't we slap a big 'ol sin-tax on rubbers and dildoes? Then, that can pay for these programs.
Hey, I like it!
And, we could file lawsuits against Larry Flynt again. The "Big Porn" settlement can take over where the tobacco settlement left off.
Hey, anything to save on insurance,and we gotta save that socialist medi-care program, too. Freedom costs too much money. $hit, it's gotta go.
Biologically, that's where "wet dreams" come in -- if the pipes need clearing, the subconcious mind will take care of it.
LOL - good point! Why didn't I think of that?
If I have all the sex, booze, tobacco, fast cars, fast driving, fast food, etc., etc., free of their restrictions, then I am no longer distracted by the pursuit of those things, and I can work toward the things they want.
Otherwise, there is going to be an inward (and eventually outward) rebellion.
That is counterproductive.
We owe it to society to be hedonistic.
(And no, this is not a joke).
What was that discussion we were having again, about social conservatives being against this sort of thing?
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