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Sex attacks put women on guard
The Australian ^ | 10/29/06 | Kate Patterson

Posted on 10/30/2006 11:27:49 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

FRIGHTENED women are learning self-defence, arming themselves with personal security alarms and exercising in groups following a spate of sex attacks across Brisbane.

In the latest attack on Friday night, a man tried to drag a 20-year-old woman into bushes at Daw Rd, Runcorn, on the southside, but she managed to fight him off.

Police are now investigating at least two rapes and about 25 sexual assaults on bikeways and jogging areas since January.

They are hunting a serial predator believed responsible for many of the attacks, and several copycat offenders.

State Labor MP for northside Ashgrove Kate Jones, 27, said the assaults had changed women's behaviour.

"They feel like they have to be far more vigilant and take safety precautions," she said.

" I haven't gone walking without taking a whistle and a mobile phone with me just in case anything happens, and I know other women my age in the area that do the same."

Accountant Nirvana McBeath, 33, said she was too scared to exercise alone after a man exposed himself to her on a bikeway.

"I was really scared, and I felt threatened because I felt isolated and I didn't know what to do," she said.

Ms McBeath has joined a gym so she can exercise indoors and goes jogging only once a week with a group of friends.

"I just wouldn't risk it by going out on my own. My friends have all joined the gym, too.

"We all feel scared. It's ruined the beauty of being able to go out for a jog and enjoy exercise. You don't feel like you can do that freely.

"My husband has taken it a step further and bought me a dog. He's not happy for me to jog on my own, either."

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To: teawithmisswilliams
Well, I'd say going jogging with a dog should act as good repellant for most of the marauding, rapacious "youths" I've been reading about in Australia.

Dogs are very judgemental, are excellent detectors of people with bad character.

41 posted on 10/30/2006 1:40:49 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: iopscusa

So do I but they're a *little* harder to get through the doors of a Wal*Mart after you've crossed the dark parking lot.....;D


[I'm surprised nobody's mentioned that good old country standby...an ax handle]


42 posted on 10/30/2006 1:41:54 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: livius

He was right, too.

Just about *anything* can be used as an effective weapon.

Where there's a will to live, there's a way.


[my dad was a prison guard for 30 years. I know of ways to make weapons out of some of the craziest things]....LOL!


43 posted on 10/30/2006 1:44:29 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Here's your solution to the rape epidemic:


44 posted on 10/30/2006 1:47:30 PM PST by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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To: Salamander

Yes, that's true. Ingenuity helps. Actually, I have occasionaly thought back on that and, since I usually have a pen with me, I decided that I am always armed and dangerous! I think the important thing is having the will to fight back.


45 posted on 10/30/2006 1:48:11 PM PST by livius
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To: Salamander
"[I'm surprised nobody's mentioned that good old country standby...an ax handle]"

Heh..heh..

You're talking about 'ol hickory'.

I have one behind the seat of my pick-up. It's been 'customized' with a little 'grip tape', and a retention loop.

/jasper

46 posted on 10/30/2006 1:51:02 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie !)
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To: Little Bill
My daughter has a .357 Smith, an alternative is a small spray bottle, two bottles of "Texas Pete" and water, aim for the eyes, works wonders and the perp won't have sinus problem for awhile.

My, how thoughtful! LOL!

47 posted on 10/30/2006 2:05:33 PM PST by Tamar1973 (We can't be brilliant all the time but the path to conservative brilliance starts at Free Republic!)
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To: livius

Sometimes, the shock of an "unwilling" victim is enough to stop an attack.

No matter what happens or is threatened to happen, scream, yell, kick, bite , go for the gonads...*whatever*...raise hell and draw attention to what is happening to you.

Several women have been abducted near the local Wal*Mart and no one knew it was happening because the women went numb and silent from fear.

*Don't* do that.

Throw a HUGE fit.




48 posted on 10/30/2006 2:06:24 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Jasper

LOL!

My dad had a 3 foot length of logging chain welded to a handle behind his truck seat.

You should've seen what one swing of that thing would do a galvanized 40 gallon steel trash can.

It was like a Scottish war hammer.

Sometimes it the simple "medieval" things that work best....:)


Gotta go get groceries now.

Be back later.




49 posted on 10/30/2006 2:09:05 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Salamander

I agree. Somebody posted something about a program for school kids that taught them and their teachers to simply start screaming, biting, and throwing things if their classroom was invaded. Everybody here laughed, but personally, I think any aggressive defense (even by a small kid) is going to really unnerve the attacker. He may kill one or two people; but as we have seen, he probably planned to kill them all. I think fighting back (any way you can) is probably the key to survival. Or a quick death, which is sometimes the better option.


50 posted on 10/30/2006 2:10:46 PM PST by livius
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To: BenLurkin

Kinda puts a kink in your run... Seriously I want a handgun, but I wouldn't carry one while running because, well, it's too heavy! I always have my phone on me and my eyes are constantly checking around me as I run.


51 posted on 10/30/2006 2:13:30 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

"..."My husband has taken it a step further and bought me a dog..."


One has to wonder if they purchased a dog because they truly wanted a pet dog anyway, or it was just the result of rising crime. If the sole factor is threat of attack, it's really too bad that firearms aren't allowed in that country. A living animal is not something to bring into a home if one isn't prepared for a fifteen-year relationship or more. This whole scenario begs for a .357 Magnum solution.

~ Blue Jays ~

52 posted on 10/30/2006 2:31:16 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: The Blitherer
They SHOULD be taking industrial strength pepper spray with them.

Yup. Made of lead and traveling ~1000 FPS.
53 posted on 10/30/2006 2:55:37 PM PST by BJClinton (Celebrate diversity: re-elect Congressman Foley!)
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To: BJClinton
Yup. Made of lead and traveling ~1000 FPS.

Well, yeah, in a perfect world...

:-)

54 posted on 10/30/2006 2:59:12 PM PST by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: All
Awareness and attitude are very important but a realistic understanding of just how violent violence can be is even more important. Car keys border on useless. Cell phones border on useless. Dogs are iffy but perps usually look for soft targets so they might cause them to pick out a different victim. Depends on the perp. Knives can be effective, if you have had some training. However, in most states the penalty for unlawful carry of concealed knives with sufficient blade length to be reasonably effective is the same as for firearm carry. I do not recommend dagger type knives - they limit you to one type of attack.

If you are not trained carry pepper spray. If you are carry a pistol. Get licensed if at all possible. Glocks are still the best thing on the market. Extreme reliability, excellent accuracy, relatively low cost, and excellent for neophytes in a high stress situation. That is why they are the choice of so many police forces.

Bottom line - too many people watch too much television. Violence is too often unexpected, happens faster than you can think, is vicious, intense, and makes your body turn into an adrenaline filled noodle. So, take your good intentions one step further and carry a real weapon and get some real training - firearms training along with mixed martial arts training.

55 posted on 10/30/2006 3:02:55 PM PST by bluetone006 (Peace - or I guess war if given no other option)
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To: livius
I think it was near Manassas that just last week, 2 little girls were victims of attempted abductions.
Both of them screamed bloody murder and/or fought back and the perv fled.
Thanks to their cajones, they both were able to go home and tell their tales.

If you get a chance to watch the shows about criminals giving "tips" on how to *not* be victim, do so.
They unanimously agree that stealth and silence are their greatest allies.

If all else fails, scream "FIRE!".

Even those who won't get involved with a rape or kidnapping in progress *will* react if they think it's something necessary to save their own hides.
56 posted on 10/30/2006 5:24:47 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Tamar1973
Put one of these on the end of your key chain...


57 posted on 10/30/2006 5:25:58 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Salamander

58 posted on 10/30/2006 5:29:08 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; ArrogantBustard; Salamander; Kenton
I'd rather have one of these.


59 posted on 10/30/2006 5:34:07 PM PST by Tamar1973 (We can't be brilliant all the time but the path to conservative brilliance starts at Free Republic!)
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To: bluetone006

"However, in most states the penalty for unlawful carry of concealed knives with sufficient blade length to be reasonably effective is the same as for firearm carry"

My dad made that very same legal point to me.

My reply was "Well then, which would you rather attend? My funeral or my trial?"

Hasn't uttered a peep about the knives since.

In MD, it is virtually impossible to get a CCW permit.
That puts a big target on the back of every woman traveling alone.

There's utterly no reason any LEO searching me otherwise, so *if* the knife becomes an issue, it's because I cut up some rapist or other perv.
By then, it will have become a legal moot point and I will, hopefully, be alive to face the "consequences".


For some of us, it is a matter of preferring the possibility of death or jail to the "other choice".

I have my reasons for feeling that way.






60 posted on 10/30/2006 5:38:38 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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