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College removes cross – from chapel!
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 27, 2006

Posted on 10/27/2006 4:28:05 AM PDT by Man50D

The cross from the altar area of the chapel at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Va., has been removed to ensure the space is seen as a nondenominational area, explains Melissa Engimann, assistant director for Historic Campus.

"In order to make the Wren Chapel less of a faith-specific space, and to make it more welcoming to students, faculty, staff and visitors of all faiths, the cross has been removed from the altar area," Engimann announced in an e-mail to staff.

The cross will be returned to the altar for those who wish to use it for events, services or private prayer.

The cross was in place because of the college's former association with the Anglican Church. Though the college is now nondenominational and became publicly supported in 1906, the room will still be considered a chapel, college officials said.


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To: Man50D

Is there anyone left who thinks that the left doesn't fully 100% support the goals of the jihadists?


21 posted on 10/27/2006 10:39:00 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (The Leftist Marxist-Islamist Alliance: joining forces to destroy civilization.)
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To: Man50D
Well: they had better rename the school, while they are at it. King William III and Queen Mary II were champions of the Protestant faith who came to power after the Glorious Revolution. If students at the school were to find out about this, all Hell might break loose.

Of course, thanks to their communist professors, there's not much danger of today's students learning anything substantive about history. Most of them probably think the school was named after Bill Gates and his wife.

22 posted on 10/27/2006 10:48:33 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: detsaoT

The first question I'd want answered is whether this is the only chapel connected to the campus. If so, then I can't see the problem. Appropriate symbols will appear to suit the use of the chapel.

If it's not the only chapel, then there is another answer that would be more appropriate.

When the college was owned by the church, it could do as it pleased. Now that it is publically funded, other issues arise.

Frankly, when this chapel was built, there were few Jews in the USA, much less other non-Christian religions. That's no longer the case.

Historical preservation is not the only consideration, it seems to me. As I said earlier, even within Christianity, there are difference among the symbols used in worship. Many protestants would object to a crucifix on the wall. Many Catholics would object to a plain cross on the wall.

As long as it's a publically funded school AND it's the only chapel, then I don't see that there's any choice.


23 posted on 10/27/2006 10:50:17 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: Man50D

2nd oldest college in the USA, founded long before the USA itself, founded as a CHRISTIAN (specifically Anglican) institution, and now W & M can no longer allow the cross to be displayed in its historic 300 year old chapel?????

This is total insanity and depravity.

Just wait, next the Cathedral de Notre Dame in Paris will have to strip away all Christian reference to become a "non-denominational" edifice, welcoming to all religions....


24 posted on 10/27/2006 10:52:58 AM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: Grig

I go to a non-denominational church - should we not have a cross? We are certainly Christian - I think you're confused about what non-denominational means.


25 posted on 10/27/2006 10:54:35 AM PDT by arizonarachel (Lord, Please let me keep this miracle!)
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I understand why they did this. The cross resembles Christ and what he did for those saved by Grace. It also resembles moral absolutes. The cross is an attack against free love sodomites and all the moral relativists. You can't have something that resembles the true and narrow path now can you? Besides, College is to be the place where you further your study in the beauty of sodomy based relationships, Marxism, and Darwinism. It cannot be used to advance believers walk with Christ. (sarcasm off)


26 posted on 10/27/2006 10:58:21 AM PDT by Jeremydmccann
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To: Man50D
"In order to make the Wren Chapel less of a faith-specific space,~~~~~~~~~~~"

So,----- it's just a room? Lets have a party!!

27 posted on 10/27/2006 11:06:24 AM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: Man50D

1Cor.1
[17] For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
[18] For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Gal.5
[11] And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.
Gal.6
[12] As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.
[14] But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
Eph.2
[16] And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Phil.2
[8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Phil.3
[18] (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Col.1
[20] And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Col.2
[14] Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Heb.12
[2] Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.



I would not enter a "chapel" nor associate where there is shame to display the cross.


28 posted on 10/27/2006 11:14:41 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Man50D

The most important thing is that the removal of this cross is understood as a gesture to Diversity. Therefore, to mark this august occasion, next week they should invite a VooDoo priestess with a bottle of rum and a bloody chicken foot. The following week, as a gesture of friendship to those in the muslim community, they should invite an imam to extoll the virtues of honor killings and the beheading of Christian infidels. The week after that...

Death by a thousand cuts.


29 posted on 10/27/2006 11:39:53 AM PDT by navyguy
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To: Grig
I dont' see why a nondenominational chaple should have a cross. It if was a mulit-denominational chaple for use by Christians, sure, but a nondenominational chaple shouldn't have decor specific to one set of faith.

You fail to see the big picture. This is done under the pretense of multiculturalism and diversity. Our country was founded on the Christian ethic yet all over the country there is a concerted effort to eliminate Christianity and at the same time inculcate children in Islam. William and Mary need not sacrifice one house of worship for others. William and Mary could just as effectively find separate areas of worship for all religions represented on the campus.
30 posted on 10/27/2006 12:05:10 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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