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To: Dimensio; jwalsh07
jw: Oh and one other thing, I am Catholic and to be Catholic one must, of necessity, be a creationist.

D: Curious. Why, then, do you believe that Ken Miller claims to be Catholic?

To be a Catholic, though, one must not of necessity, reject evolution.

1,050 posted on 10/27/2006 11:13:09 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs; jwalsh07
To be a Catholic, though, one must not of necessity, reject evolution. ....

Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the spirit as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person. --- [from your link]

Why is it that we humans find it almost impossible to accept such conclusions? Why do we vent such visceral hatred on child murderers, or on thuggish vandals, when we should simply regard them as faulty units that need fixing or replacing? Presumably because mental constructs like blame and responsibility, indeed evil and good, are built into our brains by millennia of Darwinian evolution. Assigning blame and responsibility is an aspect of the useful fiction of intentional agents that we construct in our brains as a means of short-cutting a truer analysis of what is going on in the world in which we have to live. My dangerous idea is that we shall eventually grow out of all this and even learn to laugh at it, just as we laugh at Basil Fawlty when he beats his car. But I fear it is unlikely that I shall ever reach that level of enlightenment. ---- Dawkins

Gotta reject the evolution Richard Dawkins believes in.

1,051 posted on 10/27/2006 11:40:42 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Gumlegs
To be a Catholic, though, one must not of necessity, reject evolution.

Correct but one must, of necessity, utterly reject the materialism and reductionism of the neo Darwinists such as Dawkins, Dennett and Pinker.

"Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the spirit as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person."

Do you support the Missouri Amendment?

1,055 posted on 10/27/2006 12:05:27 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Gumlegs; Dimensio; jwalsh07
Why, then, do you believe that Ken Miller claims to be Catholic?

DR. Ken Miller, who spoke at our church Sunday, is a GIDEON!

1,160 posted on 10/28/2006 4:20:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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