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Pentagon: New Class Of Silent Submarines Poses Threat
NBC4.TV ^ | October 19, 2006 | Chuck Henry

Posted on 10/20/2006 12:01:51 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 10/20/2006 12:01:51 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Don't the Russians also have a hard to track sub??


2 posted on 10/20/2006 12:04:08 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I'm skeptical...


3 posted on 10/20/2006 12:05:43 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Thunder90

Its called the Kirsk, damn near silent.


4 posted on 10/20/2006 12:07:00 PM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid. It's also WWIV.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The news package alone, which I saw on MSNBC this morning, was scary enough.


5 posted on 10/20/2006 12:08:19 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: Thunder90

This is serious stuff.

And Norman Polmar is a guy to listen to. He's smart and a no nonsense kinda guy.

I am sure we'll adapt our boats to counter this threat. Question is when?


6 posted on 10/20/2006 12:08:35 PM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: east1234

Russia also has a supersonic torpedo and plasma stealth for it's aircraft.


7 posted on 10/20/2006 12:09:10 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Their Kilo class boats are hard to track,but the Gotland is superior to it in most respects.But even the Gotland is being relegated to the background as Germany,France & even Russia bring out new SSK designs with more effecient & higher endurance AIP modules than the Gotland's liquid oxygen/diesel system.


8 posted on 10/20/2006 12:09:53 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Mariner

sceptical of??


9 posted on 10/20/2006 12:10:52 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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10 posted on 10/20/2006 12:11:42 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free!)
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To: Mariner
I'm skeptical...

Don't be. Diesel electric subs on batteries are notoriously hard to track because there is almost nothing putting out noise, the only way to passively track submarines. AIP subs are just as hard to track for the same reason, and add to that their underwater endurance is counted in weeks and not days. The sub that's quieter is the sub that wins, nuclear or not.

Now bear in mind this a technologically advanced sub from a highly industrialized country manned by a skilled, professional crew. And I cannot emphasize the quality of the crew enough, the best sub in the world is worthless if you put a bunch of amatures onboard it. Having Gotland on hand is an excellent idea for training, because if you can beat them then you have truly beaten the best at the business with the platform you're training against.

11 posted on 10/20/2006 12:11:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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According to the NBC report last night, the US Navy is having no luck. The Gotland sank a US Nuke sub and the USS Ronald Reagan is war games.
12 posted on 10/20/2006 12:15:57 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Non-Sequitur

I understand that acoustics are still the primary means of detection. But, don't we also now detect magnetically...and via ultra-low frequency acoustics (subsonic physical disturbance)?


13 posted on 10/20/2006 12:15:58 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Paging Commander Bond! England needs you to steal the Stromberg submarine tracking system!


14 posted on 10/20/2006 12:16:39 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: sukhoi-30mki
For a minute I thought this might be about our friends at Toshiba again.
15 posted on 10/20/2006 12:19:35 PM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I would imagine all training, history of the last 60 years of submarine hunting is based upon the premise that the captain and crew want to escape and live. I wonder what the tactual difference is when a crew is thinking Allah Akbar ?
16 posted on 10/20/2006 12:25:15 PM PDT by Leisler
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tactual = tactical


17 posted on 10/20/2006 12:26:08 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Mariner
I'm fairly confident that NBC is clueless about our true capabilities in anti-submarine warfare.
19 posted on 10/20/2006 12:27:28 PM PDT by AIM-54
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To: sukhoi-30mki

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Remains-of-WWI-Aussie-soldiers-found/2006/09/18/1158431647127.html


20 posted on 10/20/2006 12:27:40 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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