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To: NYer
This site proves that hunter-gatherers were capable of complex art and organised religion, something no-one imagined before."

Hold on a minute. Hunter-gatherers are inherently nomadic. They go where the food is. How could they build a temple of stone anywhere, and what good would it be since they couldnt expect to be in proximity to it much of the time? Perhaps we should question some assumptions about the behavior of people 10,000 years ago rather than viewing them through the prism of conventional wisdom. For instance this find indicates a culture which was rooted to a specific geographical location for generations. How did they do that? Did they already have agriculture back then? Was the cresent so fertile that generations of people could live in one spot, gathering and hunting with no effort to replenish and not pick it clean?

I begin to wonder about some of those people who claim ancient egypt is way older than anyone imagines and get laughed at by scholars because it's simply a ludicrous proposition. In other words, conventional wisdom precludes it, so any evidence presented must have some other explanation even if one cannot be identified. Perhaps there is some credibility to those arguments after all.

17 posted on 10/17/2006 6:32:20 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: pepsi_junkie
Sometimes people hold down opinions and facts because they don't want their ideas to be proved wrong. Take the water-Sphynx theory. It may be totally off base, but you have to wonder if some scientists and Egyptologists crap on the idea because they have a vested interest in the new theory being wrong.
18 posted on 10/17/2006 6:38:56 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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How about going for real heresy and postulating that this culture existed prior to the last ice advance and was wiped out by a combination of invading hunter-gatherers and climate change as the ice advanced? I think humanity has dropped the ball more than once.


48 posted on 10/17/2006 9:02:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: pepsi_junkie
"For instance this find indicates a culture which was rooted to a specific geographical location for generations. How did they do that? Did they already have agriculture back then? Was the cresent so fertile that generations of people could live in one spot, gathering and hunting with no effort to replenish and not pick it clean?"
 
One possible reason is that indigenous to the region were 56 different varieties of wild grasses
 
Google that item and you might learn about the classification of "Wheat" as one of those.....
 
I did some googling for this post.
 
Grasses
 
Armenia
 
Even Wickedpedia has info on  Genetically modified food which might be of interest.
 
Google has lots more.
 
I enjoyed this book some while ago that is still available at least at my local Waldenbooks store.
 
 

66 posted on 10/17/2006 12:43:35 PM PDT by Radix (This is my Tag Line.)
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To: pepsi_junkie
Hold on a minute. Hunter-gatherers are inherently nomadic. They go where the food is. How could they build a temple of stone anywhere, and what good would it be since they couldn't expect to be in proximity to it much of the time?

I disagree with you it would be quite possible for Hunters to build a temple, and use it on a regular basis. Most nomads travel a circuit that is set by tradition, thus they would visit the site on a yearly or more frequent basis. How many people only show up for services on the high holy days?

71 posted on 10/17/2006 12:59:56 PM PDT by Fraxinus
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To: pepsi_junkie
Hold on a minute. Hunter-gatherers are inherently nomadic. They go where the food is. How could they build a temple of stone anywhere, and what good would it be since they couldnt expect to be in proximity to it much of the time?

Modern Americans have summer lodges for vacation and some have hunting cabins in other states; we don't need to reside in them or even near them year round. So why would you expect ancient cultures to have spent most of their time with any structure they built?

112 posted on 10/17/2006 10:08:02 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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