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Time Aping over Human-Chimp Genetic Similarities
Intelligent Design and Evolution Awareness (IDEA) Center ^ | Casey Luskin

Posted on 10/11/2006 2:45:52 PM PDT by Tim Long

[Editor's note: This was adapted from an article originally posted at EvolutionNews.org on October 4, 2006, here. It is regarding the article "What Makes us Different?" in Time Magazine, by Michael D. Lemonick and Andrea Dorfman, October 1, 2006. The illustration below is linked from their website, and is for Time by Tim O'Brien.]

The current issue of Time features a cover story preaching evolution to the skeptical public and editorializing that humans and chimps are related. Though the article's graphic (below) shows half-human, half-chimp iconography, University of North Carolina, Charlotte anthropologist Jonathan Marks warns us against "exhibit[ing] the same old fallacies: ... humanizing apes and ape-ifying humans" (What It Means to be 98% Chimpanzee, pg. xv [2002]). The cover-graphic commits both fallacies:

The article also claims that it's easy to see "how closely the great apes--gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos and orangutans--resemble us," but then observes in a contradictory fashion that "agriculture, language, art, music, technology and philosophy" are "achievements that make us profoundly different from chimpanzees." Perhaps Michael Ruse was wise to ask "[w]here is the baboon Shakespeare or the chimpanzee Mozart?" (The Darwinian Paradigm, pg. 253 [1989]).

Common Descent, or Common Design? The article predictably touts the 98-99% genetic similarity statistic between humans and chimps, assuming that the similarity demonstrates common ancestry. Can common ancestry explain shared functional genetic similarities between humans and chimps? Sure, of course. But so can common design: designers regularly re-use parts that work when making similar blueprints. The article ignores that shared functional similarities between two organisms do not rule out design in favor of descent.

Evolutionary Miracle Mutations The article also discusses a "mutation" that could allow a loss in jaw-muscle strength, which evolutionary biologists hypothesize allowed the human braincase to grow larger. It's a nice just-so story, but paleoanthropologist Bernard Wood explained why simply identifying these genetic differences does not provide a compelling evolutionary explanation where natural selection would preserve the mutations:

"The mutation would have reduced the Darwinian fitness of those individuals … It only would've become fixed if it coincided with mutations that reduced tooth size, jaw size and increased brain size. What are the chances of that?"

(quoted in Joseph Verrengia, "Gene Mutation Said Linked to Evolution" Union Tribune, 03-24-04) The article also makes the unbelievable claim that two mutations could account for "the emergence of all aspects of human speech, from a baby's first words to a Robin Williams monologue." Are they joking? If human speech evolved via Darwinian means, it would require slowly evolving a suite of highly complex characteristics lacking in animals—a feat some experts think is impossible: Chomsky and some of his fiercest opponents agree on one thing: that a uniquely human language instinct seems to be incompatible with the modern Darwinian theory of evolution, in which complex biological systems arise by the gradual accumulation over generations of random genetic mutations that enhance reproductive success. ... Non-human communication systems are based on one of three designs [but] ... human language has a very different design. The discrete combinatorial system called "grammar" makes human language infinite (there is no limit to the number of complex words or sentences in a language), digital (this infinity is achieved by rearranging discrete elements in particular orders and combinations, not by varying some signal along a continuum like the mercury in a thermometer), and compositional (each of the infinite combinations has a different meaning predictable from the meanings of its parts and the rules and principles arranging them). (Pinker, S., Chapter 11 of The Language Instinct (1994).) While Pinker believes that human language can be explained by Darwinism, human speech and language is exceedingly complex compared to animal language. Claiming it could evolve in two mutations is unbelievable.

Functional Non-Coding DNA: The Evolutionists' New Best Friend? Ironically, the article admits that stark differences between humans and chimps may stem from functional non-coding DNA, which regulates protein production. In an elegant analogy, Owen Lovejoy explains that the 98-99% similarity in coding-regions of DNA ("bricks") may be irrelevant because it's "like having the blueprints for two different brick houses. The bricks are the same, but the results are very different."

Darwinists often cite similarities in non-coding DNA as evidence of chimp-human common ancestry. Yet the Time article explains that non-coding DNA has function—perhaps holding the functions responsible for the differences between humans and chimps: Those molecular switches lie in the noncoding regions of the genome--once known dismissively as junk DNA but lately rechristened the dark matter of the genome. ... "But it may be the dark matter that governs a lot of what we actually see." Though the article still asserts much of the genome is junk, Richard Sternberg and James A. Shapiro wrote recently that "one day, we will think of what used to be called 'junk DNA' as a critical component of truly 'expert' cellular control regimes" ("How Repeated Retroelements format genome function," Cytogenetic and Genome Research 110:108–116 [2005]).

Evidence of function in non-coding DNA not only casts doubt upon whether the 98-99%-protein-coding-DNA-similarity statistic is relevant to assessing the degree of genetic similarity between humans and chimps, but it also shows that similarities in human and chimp non-coding DNA could be explained by common design.


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To: Recovering_Democrat
By the way, you can rotate a .pdf file and read the file easily: just look on the right side of the tool bar. You don't have to read it sideways. :)

Thanks for the tip, but for some reason my "rotate" buttons on the toolbar are greyed out and not active. Perhaps because I'm using just the free Reader and thus don't have the ability to "modify" the document?

21 posted on 10/11/2006 5:58:38 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: Ichneumon

No problem. I didn't pay for my reader, perhaps an upgrade...I think they have free ones. :)


22 posted on 10/11/2006 6:00:01 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: editor-surveyor

We have more in common with mice and pigs from a DNA perspective than we do with chimps.


23 posted on 10/11/2006 6:01:48 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
We have more in common with mice and pigs from a DNA perspective than we do with chimps.

Can you back that up with a source?

(And don't bother referring me to a creationist website, as they are not in the business of doing science; they are rather purveyors of unknowledge.)

24 posted on 10/11/2006 6:05:00 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Ichneumon
Furthermore, Coulter didn't even "look at the data". She at most glanced at the title of Marks's paper, didn't even look at the body of the paper *or* any data...

How do you know this?

Coulter had to do this because she had no desire or ability to deal with the actual data itself.

You're sure of her desires? I think she showed a great desire to deal with the facts, since she spent so many pages on the subject. But I s'pose discerning someone else's desires or inner motivations is, most of the time, pretty subjective.

Have a great day!

25 posted on 10/11/2006 6:08:07 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: driftdiver

I think you mean physiological similarities.


26 posted on 10/11/2006 6:13:37 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: editor-surveyor
Patterns of similarity among organisms, homology, or homogeneous structures, [homo: root prefix meaning "same"] are best explained via the same (common) Designer with the same (common/master) plan.


A captivating and interesting read for anyone on the subject is:

Denton, Michael, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, Chapter 7
“The Failure of Homology.”


Homologies are are not similarities due to common ancestry which came to be by chance and natural process. Homologies are similarities due to a the same common Designer, the same common, single yet triune Ancestor--God.
27 posted on 10/12/2006 6:54:45 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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"God just made it look like life evolved!!" placemarker


28 posted on 10/12/2006 7:02:39 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Religion is the key to knowing the spiritual world; Science is the key to knowing the physical world)
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To: Quark2005
HOMOLOGY IN BIOLOGY: A Problem for Naturalistic Science by Jonathan Wells, Ph.D. Department of Molecular & Cell Biology University of California Berkeley, California, USA
29 posted on 10/12/2006 7:29:36 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: Quark2005
Homology: A Concept in Crisis by Jonathan Wells, Ph.D. Department of Molecular & Cell Biology University of California Berkeley, California, USA

30 posted on 10/12/2006 7:37:59 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: Quark2005

The real question most everyone in this debate seems to ignore is the question did humans arrive on this planet through sexual reproduction of our ancestors or did we appear instantaneously and independantly from other animals/mammals when god made man?


31 posted on 10/12/2006 7:46:36 AM PDT by cccp_hater (Just the facts please)
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Facsimile DNA Placemarker


32 posted on 10/12/2006 7:56:27 AM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: cccp_hater
The real question most everyone in this debate seems to ignore is the question did humans arrive on this planet through sexual reproduction of our ancestors or did we appear instantaneously and independantly from other animals/mammals when god made man?

The real question of the validity of any scientific model is whether it is internally consistent, falsifiable, makes successful predictions and is logically sound. Whether or not one 'believes' evolution or not, one can accept that the model is scientifically sound and works, which is really the bottom line so far as science is concerned.

33 posted on 10/12/2006 8:03:56 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Religion is the key to knowing the spiritual world; Science is the key to knowing the physical world)
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To: FreedomProtector
Jonathan Wells' objections to evolution are well-known around here, and they're not very sound. He basically says what evolutionary biologists have long known, which is that homology, while providing clues to evolutionary links between animals, are not 100% reliable. Genetic similarities provide much more quantitative information as to the common descent of organisms, and confirm the genetic relations that were long suspected by evolutionary biologists prior to the advent of DNA analysis.

Dr. Wells got himself a PhD, I give him credit for that; but if has anything substantial to say on the subject, he should be submitting for review to legitimate science journals, not posting it directly on the web and direct-to-consumer books. Circumvention of the peer review process is a sure sign of a scientific hack.

34 posted on 10/12/2006 8:11:26 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Religion is the key to knowing the spiritual world; Science is the key to knowing the physical world)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

The Monkey Speaks His Mind.


35 posted on 10/12/2006 8:16:34 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Quark2005
A peer review by a community of experts in the relevant field is beneficial but not necessarily a valid test for truth or validity.

There have been studies/articles/theories/books which have been peer reviewed by a community of experts in the relevant field which are/turn out to be invalid.

There have been studies/articles/theories/books which have not been peer reviewed by a community of experts in the relevant field which are/turn out to be valid

The same can be said for a PhD. A PhD is a beneficial academic pursuit but not necessarily a valid test for truth or validity for everything that particular PhD says or writes.
36 posted on 10/12/2006 9:36:59 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: FreedomProtector
A peer review by a community of experts in the relevant field is beneficial but not necessarily a valid test for truth or validity.

It's the best test there is for scientific truth or validity. Anyone deliberately dodging it to the extent Wells does is almost definitely doing a snow job.

There have been studies/articles/theories/books which have been peer reviewed by a community of experts in the relevant field which are/turn out to be invalid.

Of course. The process isn't perfect. If peer review can still admit errors, then any sweeping statement or study that hasn't been peer reviewed is almost sure to contain a huge number of errors, if not outright falsehoods.

There have been studies/articles/theories/books which have not been peer reviewed by a community of experts in the relevant field which are/turn out to be valid

And had such studies been peer reviewed, they would surely have met muster. If not, well, then they're probably lacking in accuracy.

Peer review is the best tool we have for discerning accuracy in the technically complex realm science has become, but obviously, you seem unsatisfied with it. With what mechanism would you suggest it be replaced?

37 posted on 10/12/2006 10:27:44 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Religion is the key to knowing the spiritual world; Science is the key to knowing the physical world)
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To: Quark2005
"It's [peer review is] the best test there is for scientific truth or validity"

I strongly disagree. The best test for scientific truth and validity are repeatable experiments which we observe.


"Anyone deliberately dodging it to the extent Wells does is almost definitely doing a snow job."

Dr. Wells and Dr. Denton and anyone else who writes that homologous structures fail to provide evidence for evolution are not doing a snow job just because all of their books/articles are not always peer reviewed by evolutionists. Perhaps it is worth noting that the articles/books they write get both a hostile and friendly peer review nearly every day.


"Peer review is the best tool we have for discerning accuracy in the technically complex realm science has become, but obviously, you seem unsatisfied with it. With what mechanism would you suggest it be replaced?"

Peer reviews are very beneficial in many areas of study and I don't think they should be replaced. The book "Of Pandas and People: The Central Question of Biological Origins" is an example of a work (although originally intended for the high school level) which the quality has improved as the result of a very extensive peer review. The peer review for this book is as impressive as any.

Although the reviews on amazon are not always strictly 'scientific' reviews, it is interesting looking at the reviews on amazon for "Of Pandas and Of People". Nearly all of the reviews are either the very highest rating or the very lowest rating. I suspect that if the reviewer held a presupposition that the world evolved via chance and natural process that most of the time the reviewer gave the very lowest rating. Conversely, I suspect that if the reviewer held a presupposition that the world was created via an Intelligent Designer that most of the time they gave the very highest rating.
38 posted on 10/12/2006 11:22:00 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: Ichneumon

Nice reply to the clueless.


39 posted on 10/12/2006 12:01:07 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RunningWolf

RW

Generally I don't post to you. I think it would be a waste of my time. You have a history of posting some real howlers, but this post belongs in the top 5 of Crapdom.

Before shooting off your mouth, why don't you learn something about what you are talking about?


40 posted on 10/12/2006 12:21:55 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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