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To: onyx

As someone who battled alcoholism from age 26, to age 35, I can honestly say that during that time, I said and did things that I am profoundly sorry for. I "snapped" when my wife left me, and stayed in a drunken state for 9 years. I made a lot of money during that time, but personally, I was an emotional "basket case" . I overcame it by turning my problems over to God, and He saw me though. To pick on an alcoholic is no less cruel than picking on someone with alsheimers disease.


9 posted on 10/10/2006 10:06:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Congratulations in overcoming it.


10 posted on 10/10/2006 10:07:51 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Thank you for posting your story, and especially in this atmosphere. The people on this board, most of who proclaim to be Christian, on this issue truly sicken me. Mr. Gibson obviously made a hideous mistake, apologized twice, immediatley went into rehab, and is trying to get help. I would like to hear what some of the people on this board say when they get drunk.
Again, thank you for telling your story. God bless you.


13 posted on 10/10/2006 10:13:18 PM PDT by brigada
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Congrats on your sobriety!!! It does work if you work it and I sure hope Mel can stay sober, one day at a time.


14 posted on 10/10/2006 10:15:16 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: stephenjohnbanker


Bless you and you have mail.


17 posted on 10/10/2006 10:20:59 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Congratulations on your accomplishment..


21 posted on 10/10/2006 10:26:24 PM PDT by Texas Mom (Two places you're always welcome - church and Grandma's house.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I agree with you here it is a tough disease and there is a lot of wreckage from the drinking (past). I am also in recovery. One thing that makes me stand offish about Mel now is how he just shouted his mouth off recently/arrogantly about politics etc that are against my own.

Showed me who is still in charge in his life (t'ain't God) and that his ego deflation seemed non-existant. As we both know this is a critical shift that has to happen at one point if one is to achieve long term sobriety.

Although I think it is wise to be empathic for his struggles, there are also real consequences for his behavior when he puts down the alcohol. He know longer have the excuse of alcohol--just shows his recovery is very, flimsy, as his big ego is still in charge--not a good sign for a recoverying alcoholic.

I just pray that he stays sober, finds God, turns his will and life (and mouth) over, works the steps daily and helps other. Congrats on your recovery!!

28 posted on 10/10/2006 10:39:50 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Friend, this makes two of us. See my post on this thread. I'll FReepmail you when I feel up to it.


43 posted on 10/10/2006 10:59:27 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Congratulation's on your sobriety and I am so glad you found God.....I do not know how anyone can get through life particularly the hard times without him....he is stronger than our very worst moments.....God bless
70 posted on 10/11/2006 4:44:59 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Congratulations on your recovery!

Libraries would not hold all of the books written on things that people did and said while under the influence.

There are those who claim that whatever is said or done, is exactly what someone would have said or done without the alcohol or drugs, really makes no sense. It would be similar to the claim that anything that a person does or says after getting a drug that many people get before having a colonoscopy, is what they would have said or done.

Drugs and alcohol act to lower our inhibitions, i.e. most sober people would not take off all of our clothes and stand in the middle of an interstate highway, under the influence of drugs or alcohol, many people would have no problem doing that, had they not already passed out.

76 posted on 10/11/2006 7:02:21 AM PDT by zerosix
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To: stephenjohnbanker
To pick on an alcoholic is no less cruel than picking on someone with alsheimers disease.

To coddle one is worse.

77 posted on 10/11/2006 7:07:54 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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