Posted on 10/10/2006 5:08:28 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
The principal at a Fayette County middle school has banned all clothing with the confederate flag emblem...
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I apologize for mislabeling you.
When the States agreed to the terms of the Constitution they agreed not to enter into compacts with other states or nations.
They gave up any right to become a sovereign nation and act as such.
If any of the original states of the Articles of Confederation did not want to join the Union, they had the option of remaining outside of it and attempting to go it alone as a nation or forming a compact with another nation.
They chose to remain with the 13 States and gave up the right to become a nation on their own or form a new confederacy in the future.
The Constitution made the 13 States one People-Americans.
Had secession been even contemplated as an option, it would have been simple enough to put in an escape clause in the Constitution allowing a State to secede as such.
The 10th Amendment to the Bill of Rights is no such clause because none of the Bill of Rights is dealing with the 'rights' of the States as such in relation to the Federal Gov't, but the individuals within those States to be protected from Federal abuse.
When the Constitution was written it was more likely that the individual would be abused by the State, hence the need for a strong Federal power to protect the individual from abusive State power as well.
But the Anti-Federalists were fearful of a too strong Federal Gov't and wanted protections for the People, not the States.
Tell that to the Africans that ran and hid when the US flag was spotted flying over a ship off the coast.
It is above being truly desecrated by the small-minded.
The modern KKK flew it proudly.
On the other hand, the rebel flags are symbols of a failed four year rebellion.
And the Christian cross is a symbol of a 'failed' rebellion to some, to others - including me - it symbolizes the love of our Father, Lord and Master of the universe, the greatest gift ever given.
The Jewish Star of David is a symbol of a failed rebellion to some, to others it's a symbol of redemption and survival, of being God's chosen people.
The Confederate flag might be a symbol of a failed rebellion to some, but to many people around the world it's the epitome of liberty, a symbol of valour against overwhelming odds.
If it's not treated with respect by those who revere it, it is nothing.
It IS treated with respect by those that revere it, it's the nutjobs that desecrate it, just as the US flag is desecrated by dims.
Maybe not fair or very pleasant to hear, but facts are facts.
Yep.
No problem.
...and in what year did that happen Mr. Woodward?
That hero was David Wooster, who lost his life in the defence of the soil of his native State against that ruthless invader, General Tryon. He was born at Stratford, Connecticut, on the 2d of March, 1710, and was graduated at Yale College, in 1738. When war between England and Spain broke out the following year, he entered the provincial army as a lieutenant, and was soon afterward promoted to the captaincy of a vessel built and armed by the colony as a guarda costa, or coast-guard. [italics in oriinal, emphasis mine] Benjamin Lossing, Our countrymen; or Brief Memoirs of Eminent Americans.Phialdephia pa:Lippincot, Grambo & Co., 1855, p. 322.
Sorry about your education Mr. Duke. Do ya think they ran to the ships jumping for joy???
thus we southerners will give your opinion all the respect it deserves = ZILCH, NONE, NADA.
in point of fact, not even MOST of the northeastern REVISIONISTS would agree with you as MANY of them despise BOTH the CROSS of the ETERNAL CHRIST & the US flag, as much as they despise the flag of the CSA.
free dixie,sw
NO state (and particularly the small states! the "little brothers" feared, NOT without cause, the MUCH larger NJ,NY,PA & VA.) would have entered FREELY into a union from which they could NOT just as FREELY withdraw.
free dixie,sw
the CSA flag-HATERS are so mis-educated that i hardly know where to start to try & "fix" their lack of knowledge. otoh, educating them to the TRUTH is probably a lost cause, inasmuch as their eyes/MINDS are TIGHTLY closed against anything that disagrees (evenly remotely) with their UNthinking PREJUDICES.
free dixie,sw
don't you just know that they looked on being rounded up,raped,whipped, beaten,starved, crowded into the slave pens & sold like cattle by "their betters from the oh, so wunnerful,wunnerful north"????
in point of fact, the DAMNyankees, who ran/supported/financed the slave trade, built the slave ships, crewed the slave ships & OWNED the stock companies that CONTROLLED the slave trade (right up until the LAST days of slavery in the western hemisphere), SAID repeatedly that they were "Christianizing the heathens"!!!! (talk about SELF-congratulatory, sanctamonious, RUBBISH!)
btw, those very same DAMNyankees were in MANY cases the very same PEOPLE, who called themselves ABOLITIONISTS, while lining their pockets with the $$$$$$ they received from their "investments in the flesh trade". (DAMNyankee elitists have ALWAYS been MONEY-hungry, SELF-righteous HYPOCRYTES!)
free dixie,sw
Rubbish like, "The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things."? Who was it who said that?
That is why slave states received over-representation by the 3/5 rule.
These were the compromises necessary to get them to join the Union.
However, there was never an intent of having a Union in which a State could simply withdraw from when it felt like it.
It was for this reason that Patrick Henry was against the Constitution,
When Henry talked about consolidated government, he and other Anti-Federalists meant that once Virginia joined the new union, it would cease to be an autonomous political entitity; furthermore, once it entered into such arrangement, it would be legally obligated to remain no matter how oppressive the new government had become. The Articles of Confederation had been a compact that states could voluntarily join and leave if they felt the union was not in its best interest. The Constitution, on the other hand, with its preamble proclaiming 'We the People' to be sovereign, would create a legal entity whose laws would be supreme throughout the land and in which the independence of the states would be drastically curtailed. (James Madison and the Struggle for the Bill of Rights, Richard Labunski, 2006, p.77)
If anyone thought differently, they were simply wrong.
I can find a black man - an EX SLAVE - that shared that sentiment.
it SOUNDS like the SELF-righteous NONSENSE spewed out by the PUBLISHER of the "THE LIBERATOR", who CLAIMED to be an "abolitionist", while being "up to his ears" IN the slave trade. he was NOT the only hypocrite. the Managing Editor of the NY Times owned stock in several companies that bought/sold/transported slaves, while at the same time ranting about "the evils of slavery"!
free dixie,sw
once more, you "know NOT & know NOT that you know NOT." PITY!
free dixie,sw
Not according to Patrick Henry they weren't.
But ofcourse, you know more then Henry, Madision, Pres. Jackson, Pres. Lincoln, and Robert E. Lee combined.
how many 3-hour academic courses at or above the 400 level do you have???
i have about 24 semester hours at/above that level, as well as numerous professional/faculty seminars on the subject.
free dixie,sw
No. I don't predispose anything that took place over 300 years ago on another continent, including the mindset of the natives when foreign ships appeared on the horizon. However if slave-traders were purchasing their human cargo, and said cargo was already enslaved, than I can see no reason why the average native would fear the appearance of a foreign ship, flagged from the US or anywhere else.
However, since you seem inclined toward using the African perspective on flag symbols as evidence of their "goodness", perhaps you'd care to ask African Americans how they felt when Confederate flag waving white folks protested the integration of their schools, buses, and lunch counters?
Wow, you do believe you know more about the Constitution then Patrick Henry and Madison!
By they way, I mentioned you in my post 519, since you agreed with me that there is no such thing as 'States Rights'.
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