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Turning Muslim in Texas (consversions to Islam rising)
UK Channel 4 ^

Posted on 10/06/2006 7:50:43 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

George W Bush may be backed by Christian fundamentalists but in his home state of Texas, Islam is the latest big draw. The Bible belt is transferring its allegiance to the Qur’an because, for many erstwhile Christians, believe it or not, the church is too liberal.

Eric was a Baptist preacher before he became a Muslim 14 years ago. Now he prays five times a day – even in the middle of watching a football game. His wife, Karen, also a convert, is covered from head to toe in the traditional Muslim burka. Islam, says Eric, ‘is everything I wanted Christianity to be’. His mother has found it hard to come to terms with her son’s conversion and believes he will return to the Christian faith: ‘Then he will be a dynamic preacher.’ Eric says: ‘Maybe some day she’ll embrace Islam.’

Women are also becoming followers of Muhamed. Yasmine (previously Mindy) arranged a marriage for herself and has three children. Islam, she says is ‘the solution to a lot of the prevailing evils: drugs, adultery, fornication…’ Converts often see the religious laws more clearly than those who have been brought up as Muslims and Yasmine can spot a mistake at 20 paces. She believes that she has a unique opportunity to help people who are born into the religion get back to the fundamentals.

Catherine has been a Muslim for two weeks. She came from a privileged background – private school followed by a career in PR. Now the established Muslim women guide her through the purification rituals as she washes before prayer and removes her nail varnish.

(Excerpt) Read more at channel4.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: islam; religionofpieces; texas
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To: FairOpinion
"There are 400,000 Muslims in Texas alone and Islam is the fastest growing religion in the USA. Since 9/11 there have been more converts to Islam than ever"

And you can find 99.9% of those in prison.

21 posted on 10/06/2006 8:05:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Clintonfatigued

We all know how Americans have a propensity for "fads" ....they come and they go....

But, these stupid, stupid people....to do THIS after 9/11 is not just stupid...it is un-American.

Sorry...that may disturb some people...but, there is NO WAY I could join a religion..that was a HUGH cause of 9/11!!

AND if they are so stupid to think this is a faze...and they can "quit any time"??? There are young girls in that picture...what kind of life is that man subjecting them to?

You know...the Amish have been in the news a lot because of that suicide terrorist that killed those little girls...

If that idiot man wanted to find a way to be more PIOUS..then how about Amish...or Mennonite...or something that doesn't involved killing those that don't agree with your religion???


22 posted on 10/06/2006 8:08:47 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME----You need FR, you know you do, so how about donating??)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wonder how many times a day Eric prayed as a Baptist Preacher?


23 posted on 10/06/2006 8:08:58 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: CMS
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting Islam, says Eric, ‘is everything I wanted Christianity to be’
24 posted on 10/06/2006 8:09:42 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: davidtalker; eeevil conservative

SHOW PREP ping!


25 posted on 10/06/2006 8:09:45 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME----You need FR, you know you do, so how about donating??)
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To: john drake
Wait until the realization sets in that they are trapped in a death cult...

Exactly. However, it is a fact that people can be brainwashed to believe anything if they can't think for themselves.

Does anyone remember Jim Jones?

People that join cults are mentally ill. No sane person with a knowledge of all the facts and the ability to make rational decisions would do it.

26 posted on 10/06/2006 8:10:17 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: Clintonfatigued

only in prison.


27 posted on 10/06/2006 8:11:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I suspect that this article is either completely fictitious, or has stretched the facts so far that it might as well be considered such.

None of the supposed converts are identified except by first names, and their descriptions seem somewhat vague, even considering that this is a short background article.

Moreover, they are all identified by Western, Christian names. Converts to Islam take on Islamic names, even if they do not commonly use them.

I don't doubt that there are Texan converts to Islam. I do doubt whether this article is anything more than propaganda.


28 posted on 10/06/2006 8:12:27 PM PDT by Loyalist (Social justice isn't; social studies aren't; social work doesn't.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Hey freedom of religion is a wonderful thing until your religion kills purely for its own reward then its not religion its a cult ....

So convert all you want but ya better not get caught with a bomb belt in texas or you may get buried wrapped in a pigskin upside down in the desert!


29 posted on 10/06/2006 8:12:35 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (In everyday life there is more than meets the eye to reach the depths of truth we must DRAGTHEWATERS)
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To: Txsleuth
Islam, says Eric, ‘is everything I wanted Christianity to be’.

If that idiot man wanted to find a way to be more PIOUS..then how about Amish...or Mennonite...or something that doesn't involved killing those that don't agree with your religion???

Being an Amish or Mennonite is being a Christian. One dies to one's self-righteousness and gains true righteousness in the eyes of God, imputed by means of Christ, who suffered death, separation from God as the penalty for our self-righteousness and vainly self-serving desires.

But, this man has found a religion which feeds his self-righteousness. The problem is, that is a very popular course.

30 posted on 10/06/2006 8:17:30 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I smell a Texas size cow patty.
31 posted on 10/06/2006 8:18:21 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Centuries ago St. John of Damascus (author of the hymn "The Day of Resurrection") said that Isalm was God's judgement upon an unfaithful Church.

Timeless words...


32 posted on 10/06/2006 8:20:04 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised)
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To: kcvl

Very true, about the prisons...but, some do get out...and then, if they hook up with a mosque that say has some al-queda or Hezbollah types hanging around??

I don't know about the 400,000 part...and from living in Texas, I would say the population has become decidedly hispanic lately...and I don't know how many hispanics would be drawn to Islam...(although I guess it happens).


33 posted on 10/06/2006 8:22:10 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME----You need FR, you know you do, so how about donating??)
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To: Clintonfatigued

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent
in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture,
sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the
followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this
life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The
fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his
absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the
final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a
great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but
the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who
follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being
moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has
already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every
step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of
science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization
of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."


-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages
248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


34 posted on 10/06/2006 8:22:35 PM PDT by Blazing Saddles
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To: Clintonfatigued

I don't want to sound flippant about the post but these "conversions" sound more like a post-adolescent, trendy sort of attention-getting rebellion. I doubt that such really understand Christianity or Islam except in a very superficial way.

What should be of more concern is the increasing appeal of Islam to the black underclass both here (where an estimated 1.5 million blacks are Muslim)and in Britain.

Speaking of Britain, one of my favorite contemporary writers is the psychiatrist Theodore Dalrymple. In a celebrated essay that David Brooks of the N.Y. Times said was the best journal article of 2004, Dalrymple explained the appeal of Islam to Britain's black criminal class. I'll quote a piece from that essay:


He says Muslim literature in prisons is primarily directed at "...Jamaican prisoners. It answers their need for an excuse to go straight while not at the same time surrendering to the morality of a society they believe has wronged them deeply. Indeed, conversion to Islam is their REVENGE UPON THAT SOCIETY, for they sense that their newfound religion is fundamentally opposed to it. By conversion, therefore, they kill two birds with one stone"

Now that syndrome is REALLY something to be worried about.


35 posted on 10/06/2006 8:25:58 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Clintonfatigued
(CAIR VP: Jesus would be a Muslim)

This Eric Meek scum is bad news. The above link is about how Eric told a group of University of North Texas students that we are all born muslim and that Jesus would be a muslim.

Eric Meek also is, or at one time was, a VP of CAIR. So, in other words, he is an enemy combatant. His allegiance is with the dark side, not the USA.

36 posted on 10/06/2006 8:28:09 PM PDT by FreeRadical (Pray. Make Babies. Teach. Repeat.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

............... Converts often see the religious laws more clearly than those who have been brought up as Muslims and Yasmine can spot a mistake at 20 paces.

That's great! once she gets within range of a mirror, she can realize that the burqa a=she's wearing is a mistake!

...........Catherine has been a Muslim for two weeks...........

Goody, only two more weeks until we can mulitate her genitals!!!!!!!!!

Party time!


37 posted on 10/06/2006 8:28:39 PM PDT by aShepard (Maybe the UN should donate UNICEF proceeds to the Gates Foundation, and fold!)
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To: Jorge
Regardless of what you "wanted" Christianty to be, it is the way to salvation, and unfortunately Islam is not.

Islam is the path to Satan, littered with the bodies of millions.

38 posted on 10/06/2006 8:32:00 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Clintonfatigued

Interesting post/thread.


39 posted on 10/06/2006 8:33:37 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Clintonfatigued
This so called "article" - Turning Muslim in Texas is based on some Brit woman that spent a month in Texas in 2004 shooting a video and making unfounded claims than cannot be supported or verified...

See link

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:GNsMkTRvTokJ:www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/DN-texasmuslims_20rel.ART0.State.Edition1.3a08dcf.html+muslims+in+texas&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
40 posted on 10/06/2006 8:36:59 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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