Posted on 10/06/2006 10:53:59 AM PDT by Dark Skies
After years of dithering over political correctness with Muslims and Islam, Europe is waking up to a different morning.
A three-week tour of Italy, France, and Britain last month was enough for me to conclude that Western Europeans have moved way beyond dialogue. Confrontation, indeed even provocation, is their preferred approach to the Muslims in their midst.
Long before Pope Benedict XVI's scathing comments in mid-September on the fallacy of phony Muslim-Christian dialogue, signs of hardening European views toward current Islamic values were plentiful on the Continent
(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...
How am I wrong in light of what you said?
If I found myself in such a line, I'd simply tell the next cabbie up that I don't want to ride with him because of his sign because it "offends" me, lol!
Which is really only to say, the people he talked to said this ... and we don't really know who he was talking to. One likewise suspects that his "liberal, compromised" class includes pretty much anybody who has a different view on the topic than those with whom he was speaking.
It's a valuable article, but I don't know that his discussion of "Western European views" is actually trustworthy. In fact, one might almost think it was intended to increase, rather than decrease the impression of tension. If the guy's a Muslim (it seems likely: he's Egyptian), one has to be careful about judging his intent.
OTOH, I'm currently reading A Tale of Two Cities, and it's interesting to read this article in the context of Dickens's description of the French peasants prior to the Revolution. It is likely that, eventually, the "peasants" of today will become fed up with the "youths," and do something about them. I think we see that happening.
What we cannot conclude from this article, is that the NIE is incorrect. It's probably not -- and indeed, the only way to address radical Islamism without massive bloodshed, is to attempt to find and promote that moderate core.
Good article.
The demographic trends you mention are why Europe only has a short time to address this problem. It is one thing to deal with a vocal 10 percent minority. It is a whole nuther thing to deal with a vocal 40 percent minority. Within 20 or 30 years, it will be too late. Steyn had a good column on the demographics in Europe, and as I recall, while the Muslims are still a small minority, their reproductive rate will diminish the gap in short order. For example, though 10 percent of France is Muslim, something like 40 or 50 percent of those under 20 are. So, in 30 years, if those people have 5 kids each while French have 1.2, France will be 50 percent Muslim, and have a majority of the young men, i.e., the people who are willing to fight about control of the country.
I don't believe that we raving racist maniac Christian or Jewish folk have the right to do that - probably the City of Minneapolis would be down on us like a ton of bricks for "discrimination." I don't live there, but this is what I have gathered from Freepers who do.
The Muslims are using this PC stupidity to get ahead.
That is stupid.
I don't even talk to my father for at least 10 years because he is basicly a thief. My brothers are so twisted in the head I can't even talk with them.
My older brother actually believes the girl that lived down street the girl that kissed me when I was like 5 years old was Pamela Anderson. Tom Hanks was around the corner from us and Tom hanks stole my bracelet from me when I was a like 4 yo.... My younger brother makes my older brother look normal. If I try to reason with them they just tune me out.
My views of the world and life are so different then my brothers its like night and day.
how would it help killing me after something my brother done?
hi,
thanks. at least you got my point.
with regards to my first post, the immigrants are not the enemy and can actually be our allies. if us Christians (or those of us with a christian base of morals and society etc) do not act now, in 20, 30, 50 or 100 years the neo-nazis will have enough support amongst the white europeans to violently force out the muslims, causing much bloodshed. I fear that as much as muslim's taking over europe. because a europe without a soul is not worth a penny and violent removal of muslims will destroy whats left of the christian european soul. what is a solution? cacellation of all 'guest worker statuses' and their repatriation as soon as possible. take a citizenship test for all naturalised immigrants on freedoms and law and failure means expulsion from the nation.
I think they are simply hoping that war can somehow be avoided, but I don't believe for a second that once they realize that war is inevitable they will lay down and submit to the barbaric cult of Islam. Don't forget that their long history shows no reluctance to resort to 'ethnic cleansing' when they are pushed too far.
Good. They need a strong dose of confrontation, ridicule and backtalk.
London should have a "hide your face day" encouraging all citizens to wear a ski mask as a mass joke on these Mooselimbs.
Seventy years ago, lots of people thought being afraid of the old Hitler were totally unfounded too. Some of them survived their error
Malignancy of Islam should not be compared to the plain people.
Good Idea - free sticky lapel labels of beer cans about 6" tall so all can see - That will put a crimp in their take home pay!
The demograpic of Europe revolve around the metropolitan areas. Eliminate those concentrations and things get back into proper persepctive.
What if the KKK declared itself to be a religion? They've certainly killed less than the Muslims, and are widely ignored. In Germany, the Scientology religion is banned, in Italy the Masons are too. It is OK to preach the downfall of a society, the murder of "infidels", and submission to a 7th century patriarchy as long as you call it religion?
It wouldn't help you at all, but it would make mommy and daddy Muslim talk their kids out of suicide, or make the prospective suicide bomber, know the cost beforehand. If I knew that something my brother was going to do, would result not only in my death, but my sisters, mother father and grandmother, I would stop him by any means necessary.
Simple stuff like that helped for the British when they controled the area.
"What was the precentage of the SA in Germany at the beginning? They were scoffed at too...in the beginning. Campaigns have a tendency to take on a life of their own if not checked before they grow."
You have a point. As an aside, one can get the wrong impression regarding particular communities/groups depending on how the media portrays them. For example, if you visit the BBC website, they seem to make out the muslim population to be 20-30% rather than under 3%.
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