Posted on 10/05/2006 11:50:13 AM PDT by kcvl
Edited on 10/05/2006 1:00:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
>XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX
CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**
According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.
According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.
The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.
The prank scenario only applies to the Edmund IM sessions and does not necessarily apply to any other exchanges between the former congressman and others.
The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.
Developing...
Thank you...
Where the heck is this story now? Anyone care to give a 2 sentence summary please. Thanks
I understand that. What I said was can this Matthew Loraditch be trusted to be telling the truth? It appears that he himself (Matthew) may possibly be the owner of a gay porn site unless there is someone else who uses loraditchm as a screen name.
Sloan is a former aid to Conyers? ,,,,,,Thats all I have to know that this CREW CROWD is part of the liberal left out to get Bush impeached,AND install a RAT CONGRESS , FOR hILLARY!
Soul Seeker, the main thing right now is to support Speaker Hastert. Even if he resigned, the DEMS would go after Boehner and Reynolds next anyways.
This weekend is a time for GOP leadership to develop a 30 day plan. Unite and go into Battle mode. Make a list of DEM Congressman that have skeletons and subtely leak them.
This is Normandy Beach for the GOP, kill or be killed.
No more nice guy.
AFAIK, Foley was careful to wait until the boys were former pages, and he doesn't seem to have pressed on against the unwilling. Also, it doesn't seem that anyone except the 2005 email recipient was bothered enough to report it to anyone.
Granted it's disgusting, but in view of Dem insistence of keeping any investigation exclusively on Foley, I find it difficult to believe that Foley was the only one hitting on -- or trying to hit on -- pages.
CREW also edited the emails.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1714612/posts
ABC News reported that three more pages, one each from 1998, 2000 and 2002, have come forward detailing sexual approaches from Foley over the Internet.
The FBI has contacted a former congressional page from Kentucky as part of the burgeoning investigation, said Daniel London, chief of staff to Rep. Ron Lewis, R-Ky., who sponsored the teen.
Attorneys for the Justice Department and the House negotiated on how to give investigators access to Foley's files without inciting a legal battle like the one after the FBI raided the office of Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., earlier this year.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061006/ap_on_go_co/congress_pages;_ylt=Al_B7dfhI4HoOcSK7rW64qas0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM-
Methinks you might be on to something.
From my perspective, the gay community has gone out of its way to encourage homosexuality amongst underage kids for at least the last decade. During the Clinton regieme, their tactics were even more criminal.
The entire homosexual agenda is about promoting perversion and nothing else. Considering the democrats have openly advocated the gay/homosexual community and promoted their position as simply an alternate lifestyle, it is absolutely untruthful to believe any democratic socialist today finds anything in this affair to be amiss.
On the other hand, there is a strong tendancy/temptation amongst those who have promoted such perversion within our nation, believing they can obtain whatever perverse result they seek by their skillful deception, to basically view their opposition as naive, gullible conservatives who haven't a clue to their agenda. Additionally, even without agenda, they will also find it sporting to simply promote further chaos as they believe they are immune to consequence but are tickled by their own chicanery.
I suspect this entire affair simply manifests the actual political incompetance of those who have achieved power in upper echelons of government by ulterior mechanisms.
Their arrogance is merely displaying their incredible lack of any fundamental political acumen. It's like watching a bank robber who didn't get caught mistakenly believe he is more competent than captains of industry to be the Chairman of the Board in corporate settings simply because he now has some money. (Substitute political power for economic power for the analogy.)
I so agree with you! I want the GOP to start fighting back at the RATS hard!
Not all gay republicans are out to get us.
Apparently there were a good number of gay pages, which might explain why Foley was corresponding with them about sex.
Still perverted, but if he wasn't forcing them into stuff they didn't already do, it's not quite as predatory, and would explain why nobody REPORTED any of this.
And would explain why, with just "rumors", there was little the house could do about it -- without any reports of wrongdoing, it just looks like you are going after the gay guy.
Plus, imagine Foley was one of your friends. You might not be quick to believe bad stories about him, because you don't see him in that way. It's easier for us who don't know the guy to assume the worst when we read an e-mail, but imagine you saw that e-mail but it was from a person you "knew", but didn't know was a predator, rather it was a man you thought was a good guy who cared about children.
You might be too quick to dismiss it as well, especially if the "accuser" isn't actually ACCUSING him of anything, but simply saying the letter was uncomfortable for them and they'd like the e-mails to stop.
Foley SHOULD HAVE TOLD THEM last november when they came to him that there was more. I blame Foley for that, as well. And in the spring when Reynolds was talking to him about running again, Foley should have said NO.
Reynolds talked him into running because Reynolds didn't know the truth, but Foley did. Maybe Reynolds should have read between the lines if Foley was asking to step down, but Reynolds WAS concerned with not having to put any effort into safe house seats.
Foley really screwed us, not just with his actions, but by not being honest when he was questioned. He took advantage of the trust of people who knew him.
HEY: That's an argument maybe we can make. Remember how all of Clinton's friends came out and called Monica a liar and a stalker? HILLARY even said Monica was lying. We argued they had to know, but now maybe we should point out that if Hillary Clinton, who was MARRIED to Bill, was deceived by his lies about monica and shouldn't be held responsbible, how can her party now attack republicans for trusting a man they thought was trustworthy?
ESPECIALL with that princton Professor and his students demonstrating LIVE on Fox News how they IN REAL TIME could alter the Diebold machine to have ANY RESULT desired.
I think the faud, if there is going to be such an attempt, is going to be over the usual 5%
1. Hastert will not resign, and is opening an investigation, as well as referring this to the FBI and Florida state investigators.
2. Although Hastert wanted to appoint Louis Freeh to head the investigation, Pelosi refused.
3. ABC had a story on its web site about 3 additional pages saying they had been approached by Foley, but the pages have no proof. ABC did not run the story on their nightly newscast, but Fox reported this information in their headlong rush towards losing viewers.
5. Several questionalble connections between someone who appears to be Matthew Loraditch have surfaced, including a gay porn site.
6. Meanwhile, Jordan has left Oklahoma (according to the Istook campaign) and has hired a noted criminal defense lawyer.
7. A list of supposedly gay people in Congress, including staff, is being circulated and there are threats to reveal it today.
I think those are the major developments since Wednesday night, but I could have missed some stuff in all of the fast-breaking threads.
Thanks for that summary.
Tyson Vivyan, 26, seen here in Atlanta, Oct. 5, 2006, says then-Rep. Mark Foley began sending him sexually suggestive instant messages in 1997, after Vivyan had finished service as a Congressional page. (AP)
It happened in 1997, says Tyson Vivyan, 26, who says the first instant messages from Foley came a few months after finishing his service as a page.
Vivyan's account appears to show the earliest exchange of suggestive messages reported so far between Foley and teens who had served in the Congressional page program.
Did you see this?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1714674/posts
It was posted here on FR
and also indicated here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1714612/posts
I think CREW was trying to set up a "see it was reported" with the low end emails then Mushroom the revalations with the unedited emails and fire the IMs as a second punch.
The so called ''kid'' was 18 not 16 at the time of the IM'S. It was a prank on Foley, that the page drew him into so he could laugh about it with his buddies. The kid has hired a high priced lawyer.
How could that be? Where does this guy work now? Is this his real name? Has his name been deliberately misspelled (an old Hillary trick I saw several years ago)?
The LA Times has called for Hastert's resignation. Since their publisher was just fired for insuborodination and their newsroom is in open revolt against the Tribune owners, I find this very amusing.
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