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CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
Drudge Report ^ | 10/5/07 | Drudge

Posted on 10/05/2006 11:50:13 AM PDT by kcvl

Edited on 10/05/2006 1:00:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: longtermmemmory

I went back and looked for the link.

Mods removed it.


2,781 posted on 10/05/2006 10:29:03 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: PhiKapMom
here where people make sense

Don't be so sure.

2,782 posted on 10/05/2006 10:31:03 PM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71)
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To: samantha
The Rats think we are as stupid as some of their voters.

They also think all Republicans are homophobes and won't pull the lever by Foley's name for that reason.

Winning this particular seat will be an especially painful blow to the Dems.
2,783 posted on 10/05/2006 10:31:40 PM PDT by msnimje (Seriously, if it REALLY were a religion of PEACE, would they have to label it as such?)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I wouldn't be surprised because from looking at the way Istook conducted his press conference, I would say he is steamed.

One article from the Oklahoman was changed when it was quoting Chris Wilson about Englander. He originally said he was a well known campaign manager and when asked for what campaign he couldn't answer but that paragraph is now missing from the article.

I happened to post it on here with the complete article. Istook must be furious for the paper to have that paragraph changed.


2,784 posted on 10/05/2006 10:31:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! George Allen for President in 2008!)
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To: chesty_puller

Trust me! Compared to what I have run up against here in Oklahoma, they make sense. Have never witnessed more inept campaign people in my whole life!


2,785 posted on 10/05/2006 10:32:53 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! George Allen for President in 2008!)
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To: PhiKapMom

Between this, Libby and Duke
What can I say, I gotta get a life!

Nite all!


2,786 posted on 10/05/2006 10:35:11 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Night! I am headed for bed as well!


2,787 posted on 10/05/2006 10:36:47 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! George Allen for President in 2008!)
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To: hawkaw

It's 'plague on both your houses' time. Stupid and stupider. And these people purport to govern us? What a crock.


2,788 posted on 10/05/2006 10:39:29 PM PDT by ArmyTeach
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To: msnimje
Ephebophilia

Good find. But this whole topic disgusts me. I did a search on the term, and it's just more than I want to know.

While most people on FR are approaching this subject from a legal point of view (which is a big surprise) - "the kid was of legal age, blah blah blah" - I would rather think of Foley as someone in a position of power who abused that power. He was a congressman; the boy was a page. There's the difference of stature. The difference of age. The matter of ethics. The matter of rules of conduct. Etc. Nobody is giving any consideration to these other factors. All they can say is, the boy was of legal age, so where's the crime? That is extremely short-sighted.

2,789 posted on 10/05/2006 10:59:58 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Pornography kills - a man's soul, a woman's spirit, a child's body.)
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To: jrooney
According to CNN what the FBI said - The FBI said the emails provided by CREW had the Page’s name redacted and made following up impossible. They also said CREW edited the emails. So we have charges by the FBI that CREW tampered with the evidence.

It's also clear from CREW's own website that CREW sent the e-mails to the FBI without any sort of cover letter. Plus, although CREW claims to have sent the e-mails when they first received them in July, the e-mails were faxed to someone (possibly CREW) on May 29, 2006 at 8:23AM.
2,790 posted on 10/05/2006 11:04:30 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
While most people on FR are approaching this subject from a legal point of view (which is a big surprise.

You will not find a person here who excuses Foley, it is a given that we all think he is disgusting and we are all glad he is gone.

It is so much understood it is beyond the point of discussing this aspect of the story.

But since the Dems are saying Hastert and GOP leadership did something wrong by not "punishing" Foley, we are in the process of discussing if in fact anything was illegal.

Unlike the democrats, the very second the immoral Instant Messages were found out by GOP leadership Foley was gone.

That is is how the GOP handles the immoral part, now we are working on the legal part.
2,791 posted on 10/05/2006 11:05:51 PM PDT by msnimje (Seriously, if it REALLY were a religion of PEACE, would they have to label it as such?)
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To: hstntxs

Well, imagine that - your first. ;^)


2,792 posted on 10/05/2006 11:07:31 PM PDT by tioga
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To: hstntxs

BTW, are you male or female? LOL


2,793 posted on 10/05/2006 11:08:13 PM PDT by tioga
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To: PhiKapMom
They just had the blogger on that outed the page and he said that Jordan was NO victim.

Who was "they"? Fox News? CNN? Local Oklahoma TV?
2,794 posted on 10/05/2006 11:16:35 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: piasa
CREW has been active only since February, so its profile is still relatively low.

That's incorrect. The first press release on CREW's website is from October 2003.
2,795 posted on 10/05/2006 11:27:22 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: muawiyah
Publishing the "prank" turns into defamation at some point.

How can publishing someone's own words be defamation?
2,796 posted on 10/05/2006 11:33:39 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: capitoltex; All

"I can't be the only one that thinks Matthew Loraditch is up to his eyeballs in this."

google loraditchm


2,797 posted on 10/05/2006 11:38:10 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Speaking of CREW, it doesn't hurt to recite some facts about their members.

from a poster at Captain's Ed's..

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008222.php

Exerpt-

Well, CREW was the one that first provided copies of the e-mails that led to the resignation of Mark Foley. And Ms. Sloan just happens to be the Executive Director of CREW. So, you ask...

Before she was CREW's top dog, here's her resume:

1998 - 2003: Assistant United States Attorney, District of Columbia

1995 - 1998: Minority Counsel for the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee with John Conyers

1994: Counsel for the Crime Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee for Charles Schumer

1993: Nominations Counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee under Joe Biden

Quite a nice inventory of Dem associates this leading member of DRW has to their resume.

Me- And apparently this busy little group was seeking all known records of visits paid to the W.H. by prominent Christian leaders.

Which plays nicely into this...

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=73665

Exerpt from usnewswire- Mike Rogers, the leading gay activist who has been reporting on his blog for over a year about former Congressman Mark Foley's closeted gay lifestyle, today offered to join with prominent leaders of the Christian right in calling for House Speaker Dennis Hastert to resign his leadership post for failing to act when informed of Foley's sexual advances to male pages in Congress.

In a letter today to James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, and Rev. Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition, Rogers says, "For once, gentlemen, we might have something in common and an opportunity to work together to clean up Congress."


Me again- So, let's review.

CREW, with strong associations to many prominent Dems was seeking every gathered record they could obtain about Christian leaders with contact to the W.H. Rogers, the one about Washington threatening to out all gay GOP politicians, also displayed an interest in prominent Christian leaders and wished them to join him to remove Hastert. Two strong Liberal activists separately both have the same target in mind...Christian evangelicals...we all know their intention being to suppress the evangelical right's vote. But you tie in one keeping close ties on these leader's actions, with one seeking to recruit their efforts to oust the Speaker of the House, and you add in Crew's Executive Directer that is tied to Biden, Conyers, and Chuckie...safe to deduce those three may have some questions they'd like to answer? Say, along the lines of co-ordinating with these two to remove the Speaker of the House by using Foley and these evangelical leaders as the means?


2,798 posted on 10/05/2006 11:49:05 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: LS; Howlin; PhiKapMom; A Citizen Reporter; All

Am I completely off base with my train of thought in #2798?

It's late. :-)


2,799 posted on 10/05/2006 11:54:24 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Soul Seeker

No, you most certainly are not.

Some of those names should set off bells and whistles for every member of this party.

Besides, a lof of us do our "best" work when we're loopy!


2,800 posted on 10/05/2006 11:57:52 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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