Posted on 10/05/2006 11:50:13 AM PDT by kcvl
Edited on 10/05/2006 1:00:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
>XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX
CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**
According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.
According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.
The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.
The prank scenario only applies to the Edmund IM sessions and does not necessarily apply to any other exchanges between the former congressman and others.
The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.
Developing...
I was afraid some --ahem-- shall we say, frivolous-minded person might come up with something like that sooner or later. ;-)
You need to back that up with proof. It is FR coutesy to ping the person you are discussing.
There were 2 sets of communications - emails to a 16 yo that were not at all sexual in nature but that the kids parents wasted stopped (and Foley was told to stop), and then there were the more recent IMs that are sexually explicit.
I thought you were supposed to use "Ms." when you didn't know the status of the woman? Isn't "Miss" for a single woman and "Mrs." for a married woman. What if you don't know? Can I use "hey you?" (Just joking on that one). My first question was serious.
We are in agreement.
A Prank and ABC
10/05 05:13 PM
As best I can tell, ABC News has yet to report on or address Drudges revelation, i.e., that former congressional page Jordan Edmund goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives.
Of course, this doesnt expunge Foleys conduct. But it does put at least this pages conduct into a completely different light. He wasnt the innocent victim portrayed by some who have sought to exploit this situation.
Although ABC hasnt reported on Drudges revelation at this writing, it has apparently communicated its position to rawstory.com.
Among other things, ABC claims that this couldnt be a prank because there are other pages and other communications. That may well be true. And nobody would argue, I think, that Foley shouldn't have resigned over his communications with Edmund. But it certainly does raise other questions. For example, Speaker Hastert is under political attack because he is accused of not doing enough in response to the Edmunds e-mails. As I understand the Drudge revelation, these e-mails, among other communications, were intentional attempts by Edmund to get the kind of reaction from Foley that, in fact, he got. So, not only hadnt Hastert seen these e-mails, if he had seen them any subsequent decisions Hastert might have made would have based on Edmunds prank. Perhaps that might have resulted in the discovery of additional communications between Foley and other pages, but thats not a basis for concluding that Hastert was negligent or should resign.
Moreover, the reason ABC News looks foolish is because the story it originally broke was apparently based on Edmunds prank. Again, Foleys comments in the communications are indefensible. We all know that. But wouldnt it also have been useful to know that the page in question (who was almost 18 years old, if not 18 years old at the time) was knowingly provoking a rather ill member of Congress for kicks. But the reporter, Brian Ross, was so committed to promoting the Republican scandal aspect of this, including focusing attention on Hastert, that he took the Edmund e-mails and ran with them without much, if any, curiosity about their author and his motivations.
Sure, ABC News will release more reprehensible electronic communications, but to what end? It doesnt excuse its failure to get the full story, and get it right, at the outset. And we already know that Foley was a very sick man who has now resigned. It is difficult to see how the daily release of more communications is anything but an effort to continue to feed the Democrat partys frenzied demand for Hasterts resignation, put Republicans on defense, and influence the November elections.
http://levin.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWU1NzZmNmQ3MDMzMDQ0YWVkODlmOTFhNjczNzM5YjU=
No, unfortunately he's already outed himself as gay. Likely because he didn't want any more flack from this thing to affect his party. I think he is admirable for doing so, but it is unfortunate for him to have been caught up in this brewhaha.
In most states, a 16 year can legally consent to having sex, can get married, and driving a car. A 16 year old is not a child, but is not a full grown adult. They are somewhere in between.
You're missing the point, which I expected because you are either a troll or just fell off the turnip truck.
You have to be one or the other.
The list is long and growing of Republicans who are being forced from leadership or office by firestorms created in the media and by Democrat operatives. It is the only plan they have to destroy Republicans except of course for Bush lied, people died, so we gotta pull out of Iraq.
It's got NOTHing to do with the foibles or imperfections of people who are being destroyed. They all have them, but you're refusing to focus on that fact. The Democrats are the most horrible people imaginable and yet you jump to the tune that they call, you don't question, you just ask, how high do you Dems want me to jump?
I ask you again, you freaking DUPE OR TROLL:
How many of our leaders do you want to kick down and or kick out at the plan of the Democrats?? Get ready to kick them ALL down or out, because that is what the Dems do and they are not going to stop until they are destroyed as a viable Party in their present form.
You are either one of them, or you are too clueless to care.
MY OPINION...
Were they happy or sad at DU??
Could I possibly interest you in the deeds to the Brooklyn Bridge? I'll make you a special deal.
Okay, thanks.
You need to back that up with proof. It is also FR courtesy to ping the person you are discussing.
How does one get another;'s IM ADDRESS??
Are you serious?!
Will it reveal the truth before the election? I am beginning to doubt it.
Thanks, np. See my #2170. I'm on a roll...
He said he was going to Oklahoma to be deputy campaign manager for Istook's gubernatorial effort, according to the Web site. Edmund registered to vote in Oklahoma in March, records show.
An Oklahoman who was a page while Foley was office recalled that the congressman asked his roommate when he was going to be 18 years old.
Brad Wilson, a student at the University of Oklahoma law school, was a page during 2000 and 2001 and worked half of that time in the House cloakroom, where members go to use the phone and get messages.
Wilson, 23, told The Oklahoman that he spoke several times to Foley and that the former congressman never said anything suggestive or inappropriate to him.
However, he said, "It was like a running joke (among male pages) to look out for Foley,'"'
No one in an official position in the House or the page program ever specifically gave the pages any instruction or warning regarding Foley, Wilson said.
"We just picked it up on our own," he said.
Another former page from Oklahoma, Bryce Chitwood, said he remembered Foley always offering a handshake "or just pause for a moment for conversation with a page.
"To think that that was happening while I was there, and I had so much respect for him, really makes me sick to my stomach," Chitwood told KOCO-TV in Oklahoma City.
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/local/15685040.htm
Someone was using Foley's E-mail account yesterday?? I think some of these are PHONY...not that he isn't creepy.
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