Posted on 10/04/2006 5:12:16 PM PDT by jrooney
A posting of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has apparently exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser...
ABC RELEASED TRANSCRIPT OF ONE CHAT BETWEEN FOLEY AND A MAN WHO WAS 18 AT THE TIME OF THE INSTANT MESSAGE EXCHANGE.... NETWORK STATED THE MESSAGE WAS TO 'UNDER AGE' TEEN... DEVELOPING...
ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER; FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD
(Excerpt) Read more at drudgereport.com ...
Dogpile. Don't put the name in quotes.
The Dems will now be seen to be bashing a gay man for having private communications with a gay man. Their retreat will be complete, or they risk offending their gay supporters.
This is turning into a major screw up for them, and in fact could hurt them overall if they are seen as collaborating with ABC in their version of Rathergate.
Excellent points, all. One additional thing that Pastore said: "The Democrat Party, who apparently have no problem wiretapping a private communication between two consenting adults, is the same group that raised holy shiite over the Administration's surveillance of conversations between terrorists and "Americans", when one party is in the United States.
One last thing...isn't it interesting how all of this broke, if A-BS did help plan this, not long after Clintoon's threats, the thinly veiled threat about broadcast licenses being pulled by the Minority Dim leadership, and Clintoon's meltdown against Chris Wallace and FOX News?
Duplicity, thy name is Democrat.
There may be a reason for that.
Seems the now known 18 year old at the time "victim" has hired a criminal defense lawyer. The Now 21 year operates the financial side of a Republican's run for Governor. A 21 year old with that type of repsonsibility? Need of a high powered lawyer? With connections to Foley? I'm not the one that has been connecting the dots but go to this thread to see people doing so.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713970/posts?q=1&&page=201
I wouldn't be surprised if mention of this guy is being wiped across the net right now.
And this is exactly when the Republican penchant to "go along to get along" will begin to kick in.
I expect the next Democrat play to be "haven't they been damaged enough? Can't we just put this behind us and get back to doing the people's business that they sent us here to do?"
And then the Republicans will accede, and we'll be back to last Thursday, as if all of this never happened, until it happens again.
-PJ
The thing about this Foley thing blowing up is that it puts the Dems' true colors in stark relief. They are the party of screaming Clintoon, of using homosexuality to get votes (Kerry and Edwards talking about Cheney's daughter) while seeking gay support and coddling their own gay elected officials who've done wrong, of freaking out over wiretapping of terrorists while they have no prob releasing IMs between Americans...
Meanwhile the Republicans just voted for a fence along the border, are fighting the WOT, and the DOW just blew the roof off.
Any objective person would see the Dems are completely bankrupt, morally and politically. Seriously--why would anyone vote for them?
Maybe, but maybe not. Attempting to use pedophilia to smear Republicans may just have gone too far. Hastert is the king of the go-along crowd, and I don't see him just forgetting that.
Hastert also has to know that the Democrats were planning to backstab him all the time that he was defending William Jefferson during the FBI raid.
However, just like how the Democrats are the proverbial scorpion, the Republicans are also the proverbial frog, and I fear that it's just their nature to allow themselves to get stung.
Again, and again, and again.
-PJ
Perhaps we can add instructions on how to get a screenshot to all of the, "HTML Sandbox," threads. It's not hard to do.
I certainly didn't mean to imply that any of these leaders were out to destroy the GOP. I don't believe that.
Nor was I saying anything about these leaders encouraging their members to stay home---which is what the Rats wanted them to do.
My point, which, I agree, I did not make clearly, was this: by jumping to conclusions before all the facts were in, and then calling for a Draconian response such as the resignation of the Speaker of the House, these leaders somewhat damaged their standing *among their flocks.* This, in turn, makes them less influential over their own members in the future.
People who care about what these leaders say, and I count myself among them, are not mind-numbed robots. They realize these leaders can make mistakes in judgment, and I believe quickly calling for Hastert's head on a platter was such a mistake.
My point about the Rats' reaction is that they would indeed be at a loss if it became clear to them that the members of the religious right, while accepting wise counsel, do, nevertheless, think for themselves. They would be at a loss as to how to "use" these leaders in the future if they realized that they'd actually lost some credibility in this incident.
Finally, I want to make clear that I do not dislike the religious leaders that have been discussed here, nor would it please me to have them stumble in any way.
Hell if I know...but you just said it..."an objective person". And though I know not to expect it, if we maintain our majorities for this election, I want weapons hot from our side, to nail this Demo scum to the wall.
I'm still waiting for somebody (in elected leadership) to patiently and categorically read a listing of the Democrats who viewed Iraq and Sadaam as something W never said (but Breck Girl did) - "an imminent threat"...then mention when they said it (in many cases, while GWB was still a governor in Texas, and right around certain impeachment proceedings...ahem...), to dispel the whole "Bush lied" thing. I know, I'll be waiting longer than I waited to get married. (and I am at 37.6 years into that wait!)
Why does JOrdan need a criminal defense attorney? A tort lawyer, I could see. But??
Too many Republicans have Gingrich's worst impulse--the need to be liked--without any of his good ones. I think they get in front of cameras and reporters whose political natures they know, people who they have cocktails with, and they turn into cowards. I long for politicians who despise the press and don't give a damn what they think, yet are intelligent and capable of articulating facts. W is intelligent enough, I have it on first-hand authority, but he just isn't that articulate.
Is 21 still a "kid" in your state?
In case you haven't already received a hundred replies on this topic, it becomes news when you make an unjustified accusation against someone, and more especially when it's a political figure and the election is just over a month away.
See?
You think this is bigger than Rathergate, which had NO basis in fact, was in fact based on a rather poor forgery, and involved a Presidential campaign, not some heretofore unknown pervert in Florida?
You got a strange scale you're measuring things by there, bud.
Good catch!
You need to send that in to macsmind.com
This is the BEST of the Worst news we have had. . .but the MSM will not go quietly or easily abandon this story.
NO matter what. . .(hold out for 'efforts' before this kid or some other was l8?)
. . .and since they haven't yet got the info on this scandal right; they will probably continue to report it. . .wrong. . .
that said. ..cannot wait until morning and see how Fox News is dealing with the latest. . .
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