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Scan hints Mona Lisa pregnant for pose (was La Joconde pregnant?)
Associated Press ^ | 09/27/06

Posted on 09/27/2006 11:37:35 AM PDT by presidio9

Researchers using three-dimensional technology to study the "Mona Lisa" say the woman depicted in Leonardo da Vinci's 16th century masterpiece was either pregnant or had recently given birth when she sat for the painting.

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That was one of many discoveries found by French and Canadian researchers during one of the most extensive physical examinations ever carried out on the artwork.

"Thanks to laser scanning, we were able to uncover the very fine gauze veil Mona Lisa was wearing on her dress. This was something typical for either soon-to-be or new mothers at the time," Michel Menu, research director of the French Museums' Center for Research and Restoration, said Wednesday on LCI television.

Menu said a number of art historians had suggested that she was pregnant or had just given birth.

Researchers have established that the picture was of Lisa Gherardini, wife of obscure Florentine merchant Francesco del Giocond, and that Leonardo started painting it in 1503.

The name "Mona Lisa" is the equivalent of "Madame Lisa." La Joconde, as the painting is referred to in many countries, is the French version of her married name.

The scan revealed depth resolution so detailed it was possible to see differences in the height around the paint surface cracks and in the thickness of the varnish.

"We now have very precise information about the thickness of the layers," Bruno Mottin, of the French restoration center, told reporters in Ottawa, Canada. "We know how the painting is painted, with very thin layers of painting. That's one of the things we couldn't see by the naked eye, and that Canadian technology brought us."

John Taylor of Canada's National Research Council said there were no signs of any brush stroke. "That includes the very fine details of the embroidery on the dress, the hair," he said. "This is the 'je ne sais quoi' of Leonardo. The genius. We don't know how he applied it."

The scan even revealed Leonardo's first conception of Mona Lisa.

"The 3-D imaging was able to detect the incised drawing to provide us with da Vinci's general conception for the composition," said Christian Lahanier, head of the documentation department of the French research center.

The artist brought the painting to France in 1517. It has been in the Louvre Museum since 1804.

The data collected in 16 hours of scanning, starting in 2004, took a year to analyze. It shows warping in the poplar panel Leonardo used as his canvas, but the Mona Lisa smile is not threatened.

"We didn't see any sign of paint lifting," Taylor said. "So for a 500-year-old painting, it's very good news. And if they continue to keep it the way they have in an environment-controlled chamber, it could remain like that for a very long time."

Menu said all the secrets behind the enigmatic painting have yet to be revealed, including Leonardo's techniques.

"We particularly want to understand how he painted his shadows, the famous 'fumato' effect," Menu said.


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To: 6323cd
I think that is one of the reasons I like her so much. I like to think that she outsmarted the King. The only sad part is that she never married and had a family of her own. She did have the undying love and respect of Henry's children so that had to compensate for something. Queen Mary had her buried with honors and ceremony as a token of her love for the woman who was, for very short time, her stepmother.

I wonder, was there really a romance between Anne and Hans? And when he painted her portrait was he a man in love? Was he looking at her through the eyes of love and seeing something that wasn't there? Nah, I don't think so.:O)

41 posted on 09/27/2006 1:09:52 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Clinton has ugly hands.)
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To: presidio9
Yes, probably. As I think half of this country will fight, but are we going to be enough considering all of the leftist Euros and leftist-looney Americans, plus the muslim hoards? I hope so.
42 posted on 09/27/2006 1:12:31 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Clinton has ugly hands.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Wow!

Whoopie's that old?.....:))


43 posted on 09/27/2006 1:24:34 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.........)
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To: Kirkwood

44 posted on 09/27/2006 1:32:04 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.........)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Wrong.

Wrong.

WRONG.


45 posted on 09/27/2006 1:34:01 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: CremeSaver
Queen Mary had her buried with honors and ceremony

I didn't know that; Bloody Mary yet! Was it a Catholic funeral, I wonder?

46 posted on 09/27/2006 1:39:11 PM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: presidio9

Duh gee, I thought a man was posed .... that's what Dan Brown said..... if Dan Brown said it, it must be true! /sarc


47 posted on 09/27/2006 1:53:29 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: 6323cd

I'm going to have to look that up, but something tells me that Anne became a Catholic. ???? Off to research.


48 posted on 09/27/2006 1:54:04 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Clinton has ugly hands.)
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To: martin_fierro

Yeah. Guilty as charged.


49 posted on 09/27/2006 1:54:12 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Or how about this. Leveraging from the Free State Project idea. Pick the most endangered countries in Europe and move there. In particular, traditional Catholics and LDS need to be incented. You know why ... then, start to build real walls, just like the old days. Transform the military into a lean mean barbarian killing machine. Etc. There was this guy named Charlemagne, who started out as a nobody, with a similar plan.


50 posted on 09/27/2006 1:58:02 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: CremeSaver

Our culture is European. If they won't do it, then let us go there, take it over, and lead.


51 posted on 09/27/2006 1:58:55 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: 6323cd
According to Wikipedia she converted to Catholicism before she died. I thought that was the case, but even if she had not I think Mary was sufficiently fond of her to have buried her respectfully at Westminster.
52 posted on 09/27/2006 2:05:05 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Clinton has ugly hands.)
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To: GOP_1900AD
I think we will have our hands full over here eventually. We first have to fight our own liberals and PCer's before we can go over there. Thankfully we do have copies. LOL!
53 posted on 09/27/2006 2:06:36 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Clinton has ugly hands.)
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To: presidio9
Researchers using three-dimensional technology to study the "Mona Lisa" say the woman depicted in Leonardo da Vinci's 16th century masterpiece was either pregnant or had recently given birth when she sat for the painting

That's not exactly suprising. This was painted in a devoutly Catholic land in the age before birth control. Unless a girl was of the noble classes, she was generally married between 14 and 16, became immediately sexually active, and started bearing children. She would then spend the rest of her life either pregnant or nursing a baby (God's gift to a mothers sanity). That's just the way things were back then. Since "Mona" obviously appears to be old enough for marriage, and since she wasn't a noble, it was a pretty solid bet that she was either pregnant or had young children.
54 posted on 09/27/2006 2:13:24 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: SoCal Pubbie

"It was the fashion of the day for ladies to shave their eyebrows."

I realize that, but it just looks odd. Reminds me of Whoopie Goldberg.


55 posted on 09/27/2006 2:14:48 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Salamander
Yeah, that's better! LOL!
Now she reminds me of Uncle Leo on Seinfeld.

56 posted on 09/27/2006 2:16:38 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: CremeSaver

""she that was dull, stupid, without grace of form, knew no music and could not sing, blah, blah etc," but to me, I though her the loveliest of Henry the VIIIth's wives."

I have always heard that Holbein embellished a bit in his interpretation of Anne and that, when they finally met, Henry was none too happy with the actual model.


57 posted on 09/27/2006 2:49:29 PM PDT by Mila
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To: Kirkwood

LOL!

They totally transform her expression, too.
Now she looks conniving.....;D

[or Vulcan]


58 posted on 09/27/2006 3:48:19 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.........)
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To: Mila

LOL! I would say that Anne was far more shocked by seeing Henry than Henry was at seeing Anne. By the time they met Henry was quite obese and had runny ulcerated sores on his legs which smelled very badly. I think the eventual divorce made her very happy for two reasons. 1) She got rid of Henry; and 2) She got to keep her head on her shoulders and die peacefully in her own bed. :O)


59 posted on 09/27/2006 4:09:26 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Clinton has ugly hands.)
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To: presidio9
Is the young lady .......
60 posted on 09/27/2006 4:13:13 PM PDT by pointsal (q)
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