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It’s Muslim Boy Meets Girl, but Don’t Call It Dating
new york times ^ | 9/19/06 | NEIL MacFARQUHAR

Posted on 09/19/2006 11:23:43 AM PDT by mathprof

So here’s the thing about speed dating for Muslims.

Many American Muslims — or at least those bent on maintaining certain conservative traditions — equate anything labeled “dating” with hellfire, no matter how short a time is involved. Hence the wildly popular speed dating sessions at the largest annual Muslim conference in North America were given an entirely more respectable label. They were called the “matrimonial banquet.”

“If we called it speed dating, it will end up with real dating,” said Shamshad Hussain, one of the organizers, grimacing.

Both the banquet earlier this month and various related seminars underscored the difficulty that some American Muslim families face in grappling with an issue on which many prefer not to assimilate. One seminar, called “Dating,” promised attendees helpful hints for “Muslim families struggling to save their children from it.”

The couple of hundred people attending the dating seminar burst out laughing when Imam Muhamed Magid of the Adams Center, a collective of seven mosques in Virginia, summed up the basic instructions that Muslim American parents give their adolescent children, particularly males: “Don’t talk to the Muslim girls, ever, but you are going to marry them. As for the non-Muslim girls, talk to them, but don’t ever bring one home.”

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Yasmeen Qadri, suggested that Muslim mothers across the continent band together in an organization called “Mothers Against Dating,” modeled on Mothers Against Drunk Driving. If the term “arranged marriage” is too distasteful to the next generation, she said, then perhaps the practice could be Americanized simply by renaming it “assisted marriage,” just like assisted living for the elderly.

“In the United States we can play with words however we want, but we are not trying to set aside our cultural values,” said Mrs. Qadri, a professor of education.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; muslims; rop
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To: mathprof

21 posted on 09/19/2006 11:46:50 AM PDT by redstates4ever
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To: mathprof

The article doesn't even mention that another Muslim tradition is to have more than one wife--


22 posted on 09/19/2006 11:49:27 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: mathprof

Muslim communities belong in Muslim countries.


23 posted on 09/19/2006 11:50:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: brownsfan
I was making my remark as it pertains to the phenomenon in the article about treating the non-muslim women with disregard. So I want to clarify that comment was not meant toward any postings or posters. I believe many of the Muslims have proved not worthy of not only respect, but of any humane treatment (when they are Islamofaciscists). It really comes down to kill or be killed.

I do however want to try to at least honor those that are not of that strain. Are there reservations overall about Muslims and the evilness of their religion overall? Absolutely. Understandable. Yet, I can empathize with trying to live a religious conservative life in a world that is so sinful and disregarding of God.

24 posted on 09/19/2006 11:52:27 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: mathprof

With a mating ritual like that, you wonder how they manage to reproduce.


25 posted on 09/19/2006 11:52:54 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Night Hides Not

My parents don't even have to tell me that. I can't imagine how fired up they both would be if I told them I wanted to marry a girl with anything more than (normal) ear rings and if they have a tattoo it better not be readily visible. Of course both of those are getting harder and harder to find. I would guess that the number of girls with a tramp stamp hovers around 60% nevermind any other number of tattoos. And although nose rings have fallen out of favor when I first got to college I could have sworn they were handed out in orientation.


26 posted on 09/19/2006 12:00:04 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Night Hides Not
I think this happens a lot. I am sure their are Republicans (If I was a parent, I would probably be one of them) that say stay away from those liberal women and God forbid, don't marry one!

Yet, I would teach my child to treat people with respect and to use Jesus' behavior as a guide. One thing I love about Jesus is he loved people and wanted them to understand how much God loved them. But he also told them, "Go and sin no more." This latter aspect of Jesus is so left out of even Christian understanding. He also saw the devil and named him and this is where the whole Muslim issue comes to mind. Is it an evil religion? I have intuitively felt this for sometime. Yet, I want to be cautious. For if it is I need to fully protect myself from all of its influence as I do with all evil.

27 posted on 09/19/2006 12:00:15 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

In other religions one will face a number of church related punishments, in islam the punishment will be death.

Even here in America, just ask Methal Dayem's mother, sister and aunt....

...who was fatally shot on January 8, 1999, refused to give up an independent lifestyle for the submissive version of womanhood that her male cousins attempted to force upon her in the name of Islam, prosecutors and female family members say.

When their religion takes them here, to murder, their faith is wrong. I wonder what terror is being preached in those banquets and seminars?


28 posted on 09/19/2006 12:00:43 PM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: mathprof

LOL - Reminds me of my Catholic high school so long ago: NO dating, ANY sexual arousal was a ticket straight to hell, and the senior prom was in the gymnasium with the entire faculty of priests and nuns sitting in the balcony watching every move throughout the evening. Ah, the good ole days.... :)


29 posted on 09/19/2006 12:00:50 PM PDT by hardworking (If Hitler had invaded Mexico, do you think we would have managed to secure our border?)
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To: Mr. Blonde

I know totally disgusting. I am a woman and in college I almost puked just looking at some of these women and men in my seminars.


30 posted on 09/19/2006 12:02:52 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: mathprof; mhking

Too much.

"Just Damn" material.


31 posted on 09/19/2006 12:03:22 PM PDT by roaddog727 (Bullsh## doesn't get bridges built.)
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To: hardworking
Reminds me of my Catholic high school so long ago: NO dating,

This was not NO DATING. It was no talking to the opposite sex.
32 posted on 09/19/2006 12:04:47 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Mamzelle
The article doesn't even mention that another Muslim tradition is to have more than one wife--

Good point, Muslims were into speed mating long before speed dating became a fad.

33 posted on 09/19/2006 12:04:54 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: EBH

You make and excellent point. What sort of religion kills its members if they leave? An evil one. That is for sure. On that one point alone I would say it is not a Godly religion but one of satan.


34 posted on 09/19/2006 12:05:12 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: mathprof
"Dating," is probably not the right word to use here, because Muslim courtship is very much a family affair, with arranged marriages within a close-knit group. This has consequences that cannot be ignored.

Sorry, but whenever you're dealing with a Muslim, one must take into account that Muslims are the product of hundreds of generations of what we westerners consider medically dangerous inbreeding, which even if it left them reasonably normal in the physical sense, might very well make them mentally unstable.

They usually marry within their own clan, and hardly ever outside their tribal unit. The influx of oil money beginning in the 1960's only made it worse. For example (and this is by no means an exceptional case): Osama bin Laden, is one of 75 children born to a Yemeni sequentially married to at least 30 cousins, many of them actually sisters. Osama has fathered upwards of 65 children of unions with perhaps 25 or 30 of his cousins, many of them sisters.

Check out ObL physically. Tall, gangly, extremely prognathous features, deaf, poor eyesight, kidney problems, and nuttier than Auntie Laura's Fruitcake. Yet, this guy could walk down any street in Riyadh and no one would give him a second glance. Since he can walk and talk, the Saudis consider HIS birth defects minimal!

Worse, these inbreeding habits have led to a huge population increase in Arab oil countries since the '60s. E.G. Saudi Arabia QUINTUPLED it's population, leaving a surfeit of very ignorant young men, many with obvious mental problems, with absolutely nothing to do except hang around the mosques, train as terrorists, and fantasize about stepping into a dynamite jockstrap to qualify for their 72 virgins.

This is also starting to be seen in the European centers of Muslim population, where the fast-breeding Muslims already outnumber every other group, e.g., Brussels, Marseilles, Oslo(!).

35 posted on 09/19/2006 12:07:35 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What does it matter if we’re all dead, as long as the French respect us.)
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To: Brilliant

they don't practice birth control. They reproduce quite nicely thank you. The battle is about recently voided aspects of TROP. They haven't gotten much past club upside head, drag woman to cave. The birth control pill will cause them to become completely unhinged.

It's been a couple of generations since American and western women in general were subject becoming pregnant every time they engaged in sex. I sometimes think we have forgotten so much. It's as if we think these folks in Pakistan, Iran, SA whereever practice birth control to the extent we do. They don't. If they did, their regimes would fall.


36 posted on 09/19/2006 12:10:43 PM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: mathprof

A "Muslim date" is a euphemism for a combination rape and murder.


37 posted on 09/19/2006 12:30:06 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("Martyr" - Arabic for "cannon fodder")
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To: mathprof

Muslim chicks are all sexually frustrated sluts. Use them as you like. They belong to you.


38 posted on 09/19/2006 12:32:03 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: kinghorse

Yeah. With all that oil money for women to shop with who needs sex? Especially with these yahoos. I say shoes and handbags, combined with birth control could be the fall of these Islamic regimes.


39 posted on 09/19/2006 12:32:14 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: mathprof

Where Muslim men go to find their dream slaves.


40 posted on 09/19/2006 12:32:19 PM PDT by Nachum
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