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Evolution Is Practically Useless, Admits Darwinist
Creation Evolution Headlines ^ | 08/30/06 | Creation Evolution Headlines

Posted on 09/13/2006 3:52:47 PM PDT by DannyTN

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To: Suzy Quzy
You guys can call me all the names you want but you show me not a CRUMB of evidence ...show me the ACTUAL evolution of something...anything....WAITING!!!

See post #254.

281 posted on 09/13/2006 7:44:40 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: fabian
that's an odd statement when so many present day scientists see through the wide holes in evolution

So it's your contention that evolution should be rejected because it is not widely accepted by scientists?

and many of the famous scientists of past were strong believers in a creator. Sir Issac Newton was a famous one.

He was a famous Arianist heretic, too. How does your church feel about the Nicene Creed?

But anyway, Newton's opinion about evolution is as relevant as Aristotle's opinion about Newtonian mechanics.

282 posted on 09/13/2006 7:46:43 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: My2Cents
"Every organism has as many descendants as it can"; "Anything that hurts chances for survival will be rooted out by the process of natural selection"; "People who are prosperous and fortunate will have more children than the poor and disadvantaged"

The first statement is oversimplistic to the point of being erroneous, the answer to the second is "not necessarily", the third is flat out ludicrous and not at all any part of the Theory of Evolution.

And Dawkins has a lot of misconceptions about how ToE is applies to Theology. He is mistaken in his assertion that ToE is evidence for "no God." And that still has no effect on the scientific theory.

283 posted on 09/13/2006 7:46:44 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: My2Cents
OK, tell me this: What are all those links and drawings suppose to prove? Boil it down to one sentence. Tell me what it's all suppose to prove. Man's ascent from slimemold? Tell me the bottom line, then I'll look at your links, and tell you whether you've proven your point.

There is overwhelming evidence that shows a path from modern man to early Hominids and before that from proto-human animals. There is even MORE overwhelming evidence on speciation.

That is the summary. You need to do the research to refute it. All of the articles and links point to recognized and respected and peer-reviewed science journals.

BTW, what has blind adherence to evolution got to do with conservatism?

Like "blind adherence" to physics, astronomy, chemistry, and all those other evil satanic practices. Yes, you are right. The Earth is flat and the Universe is 6,000 years old. And that EVIL telescope must be removed so no comets ever hit Springfield again.

Your social allies seem to be the leftist mainstream media, and you legal ally [sic] seems to be the ACLU.

There is no "social" issue here. If you think that kids should be taught that Angels keep airplanes aloft (which I assume to be your stance) then I guess you can get that listed as science, once it passes scientific muster.

I just find it saddening and maddening that so-called "conservatives" want our children to be ignorant and years behind their peers in advanced countries like Turkey.

284 posted on 09/13/2006 7:47:29 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The state board will meet in closed session to discuss whether it violated an open meetings law)
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To: js1138

Truly pathetic!

Get some sleep.


285 posted on 09/13/2006 7:48:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: sportutegrl
I guess what I was trying to say is that sometimes a species dies out due to no fault of man. Humans are not the cause of every single extinction that ever happened.

I guess you never saw Michael Moore up close.

;)

286 posted on 09/13/2006 7:50:15 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The state board will meet in closed session to discuss whether it violated an open meetings law)
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To: jwalsh07
Intelligent design based on biochemistry is the new paradigm, as a mechanism that can be applied by science, roaring into Dodge like the old freight trains. Such is life.

Intelligent design is a dodge developed after the Supreme Court bombed creation "science" out of the classrooms in the late 1980s.

The clever folks at the Discovery Institute said, "Aha! Well change things around a bit and see if we can fool people." So they came up with a strategy.

They called this The Wedge Strategy. But whoops!

Somehow it got leaked and posted on the internet, and that gave the whole ballgame away.

Its not about science. It is about overriding science with a particular narrow religious belief.

287 posted on 09/13/2006 7:50:34 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

My mom married a geologist who was in minerals exploration - uranium. I had to spend 4 weeks is a place called Uravan in Colorado, at a uranium/vanadium mine. I heard they closed it down, and have blocked off the entire area because of contamination. It is rare to meet anyone in uranium exploration now days.


288 posted on 09/13/2006 7:51:13 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: Suzy Quzy
Waiting for EVIDENCE that I asked for...notice Not ONE of these posters have sent anything.

See post #254.

289 posted on 09/13/2006 7:53:53 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: AndyJackson; corkoman
"Their vaccination porduction is tied to existing strains because that is what they can produce. Public health officials anticipate mutation and worry that vaccines for last years strains will be ineffective against what appears this year. They do the best they can. Unfortunately anticipating that something will mutate is different than being able to develop a vaccine to protect against what the virus will mutate into."

Exactly. So evolution's not producing anything except worry.

And even if Corkoman was right, which I seriously doubt, that the CDC anticipates specific mutations and proactively prepares for them. Knowledge of mutations is not the same as evolution. We believe we've seen strains of the flu leap from animals to man (i.e. Swine Flu). But that's not evolution either. It might be micro evolution but it's not anything on the scale of Darwinian macro evolution.

And even should the bird flu make the leap, it's still flu, it may mutate, but it hasn't evolved into anything other than the flu.

290 posted on 09/13/2006 7:54:09 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Has anyone read "The Biology Of Belief" by Bruce Lipton?


291 posted on 09/13/2006 7:54:26 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: My2Cents

There are a lot of myths that could use clearing up, all right. "Survival of the fittest" is one. Sounds like this fella is taking them on. He seems to have issues with the social philosophy of "Darwinism", something which I see no empirical evidence to support. We certainly agree on that.

Does he reject the Theory of Evolution in toto, or just the humanist social movements that attached themselves to it like barnacles?


292 posted on 09/13/2006 7:54:51 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Waiting for a crumb of evidence of evolution that I asked you for....waiting....waiting.

See post #254.

(I'm catching up as fast as I can!)

293 posted on 09/13/2006 7:55:04 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: DannyTN
"You heard it right here. We didn’t have to say it. One of Darwin’s own bulldogs said it for us: evolutionary theory is useless. Oh, this is rich."

The author of the article not only has entirely missed the point, as an evolution/Darwin hater, he represents the dark-side of conservatism and functions on the same psychological level as the liberal Bush-haters.
294 posted on 09/13/2006 7:58:42 PM PDT by George - the Other (No matter how one looks at it, hate is hate ...)
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To: sportutegrl
"If evolution predicts that the strong survive, then doesn't that imply that the weak die off? If so, then why do the enviros get so bent out of shape when some species die off, i.e. become extinct?"

Yeah, you would think, the enviros would simply say that's natural let it be. But of course since everything is man's fault and in particular Bush's fault, they'll never view it that way.

Actually, Scientists tell us there have been hundreds of extinctions in our lifetime. And something on the order of 1/3 of all bird species have gone extinct in the last 2000 years. So where are the new species, to keep up? We discover new species in extreme environments that have probably existed for ages. But I know of only two that proposed as "recent" new species. And they are just mosquitos and moths that have become isolated so long that they have lost the ability or will to mate with others of their species.

It seems like at current rates, we would see a lot of extinct species in the fossil record, which we do. But extinction without many new species is consistent with a cursed earth instead of evolution providing ever more diversity.

295 posted on 09/13/2006 7:59:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: AndyJackson

Remember to tag your sarcasm posts!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law


296 posted on 09/13/2006 8:00:19 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: DannyTN

God is sitting up there laughing.


297 posted on 09/13/2006 8:00:44 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: stands2reason

Sarcasm tags are for wusses.


298 posted on 09/13/2006 8:00:52 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: DannyTN

Ridiculous. Evolution has been useful in giving mankind a reason to ignore his nobility, and to blame chemistry and chance for his behaviour. ;-)


299 posted on 09/13/2006 8:01:18 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I refuse to be a member of the trade association called the AMA. Many physicians are not members. For many reasons. Abortion, gun control etc. They are just another trade union they do not have any more truth than me.


300 posted on 09/13/2006 8:04:45 PM PDT by therut
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