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Graf leads GOP; 'Gabby wanted me, has me,' front-runner says
Arizona Star ^ | September 13, 2006 | BLAKE BLAKE MORLOCK and KOSTAS KALAITZIDIS

Posted on 09/13/2006 2:55:49 AM PDT by Dane

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To: no dems
That might have been Graf. Here's a summary of what the candidates thought about the topic.
21 posted on 09/13/2006 6:26:03 AM PDT by gaussia
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To: napscoordinator
Does anyone know how this seat will play in November? Is it definitely ours or are we at risk?

Political analyst on F&F this a.m. said its a Rat gain in November, Huffman was the moderate who could bring over moderate Rats, blah, blah, blah.

22 posted on 09/13/2006 6:31:13 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Ben Ficklin
Earlier polls showed Graf losing to the dem by a substantial margin, which is why the dems were spending money on Graf.

Earlier polls as done by the Tarrance group also showed Huffman tied with Graf but we now see how that turned out.

23 posted on 09/13/2006 6:57:18 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: CedarDave
Political analyst on F&F this a.m. said its a Rat gain in November, Huffman was the moderate who could bring over moderate Rats, blah, blah, blah.

Remember Bilbray? I guess the demonRAT analyst doesn't. Dumb.

24 posted on 09/13/2006 6:59:59 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: libertylover

Gabby is the Tucson Dem who will cut and run from Iraq. She came from Tucson where she grew up and took over her family's tire stores then ran them into the ground , So she has that going for her.


25 posted on 09/13/2006 7:13:17 AM PDT by Tucsonfun
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

According to Spiff, Graf has always lead Huffman.


26 posted on 09/13/2006 7:25:21 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
NRCC Pushes Moderate in Ariz. Primary

The same source said a survey conducted for the NRCC by the Tarrance Group showed Huffman and Graf just about tied among likely Republican voters.

27 posted on 09/13/2006 7:32:13 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Doing a google news search and google search using the key words Graf and poll, one can find uncountable references to Graf leading in the polls.


28 posted on 09/13/2006 7:55:34 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Dane

There are bridges to be built, but the first bridges will have to be built by the NRCC, who slimed this guy in the primary.

Chances are, they'll keep there distance, and not spend any money in this race...then, if he loses, they can say "we told you so." Self-fulfilling prophecy, you know.

I hope I'm wrong and the NRCC really did support Huffman because they thought he could win, and not because the NRCC is a bunch of liberals and moderates, trying to get liberals and moderates elected.


29 posted on 09/13/2006 8:01:31 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Tarrance weren't the only ones that had the two "tied", there were others. The bottom line is I don't trust too many polls anymore and the ones who you cite as having Graf losing to the democrat could be just as wrong as Tarrance was.


30 posted on 09/13/2006 8:10:54 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

I'll give you $125.00 for every linked reference to Huffman leading in the polls if you will give me $100.00 for every linked reference to Graf leading in the polls.


32 posted on 09/13/2006 8:14:41 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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I'll give you $125.00 for every linked reference to Huffman leading in the polls...

No one used the word "leading" but you, I said tied and yes there were several that had them either that or a lot closer than it turned out.

33 posted on 09/13/2006 8:17:00 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: B Knotts
There are bridges to be built, but the first bridges will have to be built by the NRCC, who slimed this guy in the primary.

And the DNC slimed Huffman, to the benefit of Graf.

34 posted on 09/13/2006 8:19:04 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: napscoordinator

It's Gaby's to lose. Tucson (which is most of AZ8) is the liberal enclave of AZ, the only reason Kolbe kept winning is because he caucuses left so often the dems love him. There's still the possibility Graf's message will carry in the section of AZ8 that are outside of Tucson (especially closer to the border) to make the race interesting and possibly even pull the upset, but for now the odds have to go to Gaby.


35 posted on 09/13/2006 8:21:32 AM PDT by discostu (you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes)
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To: Dane
There's a difference, though. Can you guess what it is? That's right...the NRCC is allegedly an arm of the Republican Party. And Graf is a Republican. So, one might expect that they would not be running ads targeting Republicans.
36 posted on 09/13/2006 8:21:53 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: Dane

"And Huffman had the third place finisher siphoning votes from him."

Yes, if only Hellon wasn't there RINO Huffman would have won. Do you know that for sure? No. But your stating it like it's some kind of undeniable truth.

Dane, I know you're upset the candidate strong on illegal immigration and other conservative issues won. But that is no reason to make things up.


37 posted on 09/13/2006 8:26:26 AM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: B Knotts
There's a difference, though. Can you guess what it is? That's right...the NRCC is allegedly an arm of the Republican Party. And Graf is a Republican. So, one might expect that they would not be running ads targeting Republicans

Huh, and I didn't see Graf asking the DNC to discontinue their ads against Huffman.

38 posted on 09/13/2006 8:26:39 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
You have provided one reference to them being about even,

If a probable republican voter had been given a polling(or voting)choice between only Huffman and Graf, they probably would have been closer. But once you put Hellman into the choice, and the moderates split, Graf jumps out ahead.

Any way, here is my new deal.

I'll give you $200.00 for every linked reference to Huffman being ahead in the polls and $110.00 for every linked reference showing them even if you will give me $100.00 for every linked reference to Graf leading.

39 posted on 09/13/2006 8:27:46 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: discostu

IF AZ-8 is largely a liberal enclave, please explain then why it went for Bush in 2000 (50-46), and 2004 (53-46).

The thing Graf needs now is money. If the national party patches things up with him and helps him out, he should be able to win.


40 posted on 09/13/2006 8:28:25 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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