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Haleigh Poutre Almost Victim of Euthanasia, Now Making Good Progress
Life News ^ | September 4, 2006 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 09/05/2006 4:45:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Haleigh Poutre was the victim of child abuse and was nearly killed via euthanasia when Massachusetts officials gave up on her after she entered a coma. Now Poutre, once termed "brain dead" by doctors, continues to improve and is speaking a few words, her grandmother says.

Sandra Sudyka, the girl's biological grandmother, is no longer allowed to visit her granddaughter and now says she is ready to speak to the media about Poutre's condition.

She told The Republican newspaper that she last saw Poutre on July 18 but indicated she was "doing well."

"She was bright-eyed and smiling. She is always responsive to us," Sudyka explained.

Department of Social Services had asked Sudyka not to talk with reporters about Haleigh, but since they will no longer allow her and Haleigh's biological mother, Allison Avrett, to visit the 12 year-old, she said she's going to talk to the media.

"I decided since they broke the deal, I am going to talk. People should know how well she is doing," Sudyka told the newspaper.

"They don't want people to know how she is doing after they wanted to pull the plug," Sudyka said.

DSS spokeswoman Denise Monteiro declined an interview with The Republican but said that the visiting privileges have been suspended, not terminated.

Haleigh first began speaking in June, her grandmother told the newspaper.

"I was saying to her 'I love you,' and she was trying to say 'love' and it came out as a vibration...'ove,'" Sudyka said.

Sudyka, who is working with an attorney to adopt the girl, said she has said hello, responds to comments and questions, speaks nonverbally and is able to write her name. Haleigh can't walk and is confined to a wheelchair.

Avrett, Poutre's biological mother, lost custody of her daughter after physically abusing her. Poutre was put into a foster home where her adoptive parents also abused her. Her adopted mother committed suicide after abusing Poutre so much she had to be hospitalized.

DSS took Poutre into custody and when she appeared to slip into a coma, the agency asked the state Supreme Court for permission to take her life. That's when Poutre began responding.

Poutre has been receiving physical, speech and occupational therapy since January 26 at Franciscan Hospital for Children in Brighton.

Gov. Mitt Romney appointed a commission to look into how the state failed to properly handle the girl's case.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: babykillers; deathcult; deathcultivation; haleigh; haleighpoutre; kottkamprinotoo; schiavo; terridailies; terrioctoberdailies; terrischiavo; terrislegacy
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To: T'wit; BykrBayb

We watched when our dog gave birth to the first of her puppies, acted as if they were just foreign objects. And we worried, needlessly. By the time the last puppy was born, a fierce mother had taken over. Motherhood had kicked in. Sadly I have seen where that motherhood never kicked in. Maybe that is what happens to sociopaths who give birth.


441 posted on 09/16/2006 4:51:07 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: BykrBayb; bjs1779; 8mmMauser
This is worth reading. The ideas we have heard a thousand times from our guests show up all-but word for word in the German Eugenics movement. This little essay goes back to 1920, although, of course, the ideas have much deeper roots. These ideas undermined the moral standards of a civilized, Christian country and fed the holocaust to come -- first the mentally and physically disabled, later the Jews and untermenschen.

I'd be inclined to skip the first two paragraphs and go straight to the history, but NBD either way.

Lessons from history [the eugenics roots of T-4]

442 posted on 09/16/2006 4:58:25 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: GladesGuru
Thank you. We've had to piece the story together from sketchy case accounts. (And in my own case, from horrifying personal experience, when a member of my extended family -- who was not brain dead -- was chopped up for organs.)

If you are interested in the economics, you can look at this as one more example of Prohibition. There is no direct cash market for human organs. That's banned by law. The utterly predictable results: prices go 'way up and the business gets driven underground and turned over to morally shady characters. Something is paying for those fancy surgical teams on call 24/7 in the big hospitals. The real prices must show up in the incredibly costly transplant surgery bills.

The moral imperative to save human life comes up against this economic reality: Saving the patient is a heavy COST. Cannibalizing the patient instead, for transplant organs, avoids the cost and makes a huge PROFIT for the hospital. They don't even have to pay for the organs. Do we wonder that corners are cut and moral standards frayed?

So now we have hospital "bioethics committees" to explain to patients' families why they should say bye-bye to their loved one (and please sign that organ donation card on the way out).

443 posted on 09/16/2006 5:24:21 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: All; T'wit

I hope everyone reads this as a reminder, our own as well as visitors who would hope to disrupt. Maybe they would realize their prattle only sounds brilliant to themselves, but merely annoying to us, a subject already developed long before most of us were born.

On the subject of untermenschen, a friend, the one who hosted me during the Pinellas Park vigil, once took me to see a place near where we were stationed in the '60's. It was in Germany and he showed me a beautiful building adorned with gingerbread type trim, a place oozing warmth and comfort. That, he explained is where before the war, many disabled people and kids entered and never emerged. Happy death indeed.


444 posted on 09/16/2006 5:30:26 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Sadly I have seen where that motherhood never kicked in.

Now we know where liberals come from. They are rejected by their biological mothers and spend the rest of their lives whining.

445 posted on 09/16/2006 6:15:41 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Danforth is a human stomach pump.


446 posted on 09/16/2006 6:21:24 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: 8mmMauser
"Those who will not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" -- Santayana

More good reading: Tiergartenstrasse 4: T-4 Aktion Nazi Euthanasia Program Also this: Lamarck, Darwin, Haeckel and Nazi eugenics -- "Naziism is applied biology"

Nazi propaganda poster, 1936. It says pretty much what the other one does (and what Hitler said), that the handicapped or biologically unfit are an intolerable burden on the nation and on its treasury.

447 posted on 09/16/2006 6:52:42 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit
Let's try that Santayana quotation again, I meant only to paraphrase... Here's a Wikipedia discussion:

    * Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

          o This famous statement has produced many paraphrases and variants:
            Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
            Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
            Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it.

448 posted on 09/16/2006 6:57:45 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit

Yeeks. Condemned to... repeat it.


449 posted on 09/16/2006 6:59:15 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Here We Have No Lasting City/How Parents Are Trying for Immortal Babies

This essay leaves one gasping. What's so frightening is that it's so clear, logical and human. Dr. Frankenstein has come to the middle class.

450 posted on 09/16/2006 7:09:15 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: All; narses; Jawn33
Ping to a thread on effect of Terri's Legacy. Thanks, narses.

Schiavo supporters may have been right.

8mm

451 posted on 09/16/2006 9:04:32 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: BykrBayb

"Why wait?"

That's just ugly. There may well come a day when you need a kidney or a liver. You'll be very grateful to those who are willing to donate organs at the time of their death.

There's no need for you to be ugly about it to someone who is an organ donor. I am a donor, too.

It's a new low for you BykrBayb.


452 posted on 09/16/2006 11:17:46 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: BykrBayb

"But you had one of the important posts removed, in an attempt to hide the truth. Are you going to admit you were wrong, and request it be reinstated? Are you going to answer any of the questions? I'd love to know how you think what you said is any different from the Nazi propaganda poster you had pulled."




That poster cannot remove any posts. That post was removed by the moderator. If you have a problem with that, why not take it up with the moderator who pulled the post?


453 posted on 09/16/2006 11:22:02 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: All; 8mmMauser

Rather than contribute $$ to the National Republican Committee, I contribute to individual CONSERVATIVE Republicans that I have researched and/or are backed by good people, like Alan Keyes.

I just don't trust the Republican Party to make good judgments any more.

Senator John Danforth is one of many examples.


454 posted on 09/16/2006 5:14:51 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: T'wit
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Original of colorized T4 Baby above from Credit: USHMM, courtesy of National Archives and Records Administration, College Park Copyright: Public Domain;Date: May 1945 Locale: Kaufbeuren, Germany:Close-up of Richard Jenne, the last child killed by the head nurse at the Kaufbeuren-Irsee euthanasia facility. [Photograph #78606]

455 posted on 09/16/2006 5:49:48 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; Abby4116; Alissa; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
Barry, we hardly knew ya...

Is this the Goldwater so fierce decades ago?

Still, those opinions have echoes today, and as the documentary shows, while my grandfather didn’t leave his party, his party has left him. Though he’s often depicted as the father of conservatism, Barry Goldwater would be considered a moderate today. He was firmly pro-choice, a supporter of gay rights and, in his later years, said that he thought it was okay for gays to serve in the military.

Fundamentally, it’s clear that Barry would not have been comfortable with the increasing influence of the Christian right over the GOP. My grandfather would have been appalled by the whole political grandstanding of the Terri Schiavo mess.

Goldwater Today

8mm


456 posted on 09/17/2006 3:48:52 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All

Today's news is dominated by the Terri bashing the MSM has grabbed these last few days, a joint operation of the MSM rehash of the Ellen Goodman wedge she hoped to drive between the "PVS" but conscious woman and any connection to Terri's Legacy. The other is tooting the horn for Senator Danforth's book.


457 posted on 09/17/2006 3:54:41 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife
From ProLifeBlogs,

It is happening in South Dakota...

Abortion-rights advocates have gotten a measure on the November ballot that, if passed, would repeal the state law (HB 1215) forbidding all abortions, except those that would save the life of a mother. The ban, which hasn't yet taken effect, will be activated if it survives the ballot initiative (even though it likely would be challenged in the courts). The law states that individuals performing abortions would be fined $5,000 and be jailed for five years.

Here's the key problem: Planned Parenthood is now pouring money into the state in hopes of killing this legislation without having to go to court.

South Dakota Prolifers Need your HELP!!!

Read more

8mm

458 posted on 09/17/2006 4:03:12 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

The man who ghosted "Conscience of a Conservative" for Barry married into a famously Catholic family (the Buckleys!), was a convert to Catholicism, and was as ferociously "religious" as you can get. He later founded and edited his own religious journal, called TRIUMPH.


459 posted on 09/17/2006 5:57:59 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: 8mmMauser

The story is not complicated. Barry Goldwater in his later years was no longer the Barry Goldwater of 1964 who spoke of principle with thunder in his voice. His friends simply had to bear it and wince.


460 posted on 09/17/2006 6:02:00 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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