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Europe's 1st lunar mission reaches moon
Yahoo & AP ^ | September 2, 2006

Posted on 09/02/2006 11:38:19 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

DARMSTADT, Germany (AP) First European spacecraft to moon makes planned crash landing on lunar surface.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: moon
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To: Coyoteman

Gee...do ya think?


61 posted on 09/03/2006 9:39:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RightWhale; Gondring
This was not the first ion motor to fly.

There are many ion rockets in space these days. We are using them for attitude control.

62 posted on 09/03/2006 9:39:17 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Coyoteman
There are some negative comments on this thread. They planned the crash and figured out a way to get some good data. What's the beef?

The beef appears to be, one would actually have to read the article to know what it was about, and not just the headline.

It is a waste of time to engage with folks who can't even do that. And it feeds the left-wing MSM with yet more annoying "Republicans are anti-science" Shinola.

Conservatives are NOT anti-science. But reading some of the foolish 'fly-by-postings' on this thread, I can see why that claim gets perpetuated.

Very depressing.

63 posted on 09/03/2006 9:39:36 AM PDT by ToryHeartland
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To: Iscool
And if there was any equipment in the vehicle to monitor the 'landing', likely it got destroyed in the crash...

The "crash" was being monitored here from the Earth.

64 posted on 09/03/2006 9:40:31 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Are these guys cutting edge or what ???


65 posted on 09/03/2006 9:40:47 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Obie Wan; Lunatic Fringe
Are these guys cutting edge or what ???

Actually they are. (I have worked with the ESA)

66 posted on 09/03/2006 9:41:46 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: MarkL

One of these days, ones of these days...


67 posted on 09/03/2006 9:45:06 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: ToryHeartland; Coyoteman
Conservatives are NOT anti-science. But reading some of the foolish 'fly-by-postings' on this thread, I can see why that claim gets perpetuated.

It is like that on many (if not most) science threads these days.

68 posted on 09/03/2006 9:45:50 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Sounds like what we did over forty years ago withthe Ranger series.


69 posted on 09/03/2006 10:22:20 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: martin_fierro; Charles Henrickson

Ich bin ein Banglunar...


70 posted on 09/03/2006 10:25:05 AM PDT by mikrofon (Literal Astro BUMP)
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To: jmcenanly

Except the Ranger series did not use ion propulsion, have a three year mission and gather the data this spacecraft did.

But OTOH, Ranger was 40 years ago.


71 posted on 09/03/2006 10:30:32 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace; Lunatic Fringe

<< Now that is a good title. >>

Now isn't that the Truth!

And, didn't we do something similar, insofar as aiming at and hitting the moon, is concerned?

Back in the Middle Ages?


72 posted on 09/03/2006 10:50:36 AM PDT by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: RadioAstronomer
There are many ion rockets in space these days. We are using them for attitude control.

I resent the implicatiom that if I DON'T have an ion thruster, I might have a bad attitude!

73 posted on 09/03/2006 11:05:11 AM PDT by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

If they were going to crash it, they could have saved a lot of money by dropping it from the nearest tall building.


74 posted on 09/03/2006 11:25:42 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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To: jmcenanly

Ranger did not orbit the moon but augered in. They attempted to take the last image just before impact. I don't recall what the closest image was, but it was a few feet.


75 posted on 09/03/2006 11:28:16 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: AdmSmith
...until it was high enough to be grabbed by the moon's gravity.

High enough? From memory, the Earth's gravitational effect, in relation to the Moon is something just under
90% of the distance between to the two masses. Say 250K miles, that means it has to be about
25K miles from the Moon to be captured by it.

Or did I miscalculate?

76 posted on 09/03/2006 12:08:14 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke; RightWhale; RadioAstronomer
"... From memory, the Earth's gravitational effect, in relation to the Moon is something just under 90% of the distance between to the two masses. Say 250K miles, that means it has to be about 25K miles from the Moon to be captured by it."

Probably close enough. Now, how high does a beanstalk have to be on the moon, to get past the balance point with Earth?

77 posted on 09/03/2006 12:22:58 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
It is like that on many (if not most) science threads these days.

In the genuine hope that most conservatives take an interest in science rather than making themselves look silly with sniggering posts, here's a link to the article (which is defective in this thread). here.

78 posted on 09/03/2006 12:27:31 PM PDT by ToryHeartland
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Europe's 1st lunar mission reaches moon where they immediately deployed their white flag and surrendered to the moonbats.


79 posted on 09/03/2006 3:56:10 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: Lunatic Fringe
They better be careful up there or there'll be shots fired!


80 posted on 09/03/2006 4:15:16 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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