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Little Stock in Stock Car Racing(For all you "Left-turners" LOL)
The Washington Times ^ | August 30, 2006 | Dave Fay

Posted on 08/30/2006 8:12:57 AM PDT by kellynla

HUNTERSVILLE, N.C. -- There is a story NASCAR insiders swear is true and claim is not an isolated case.

A few years back at a Ford dealership outside Harrisonburg, Va., two men in their late 20s walked in on a Monday morning and started asking about a certain model of Taurus. They were neatly dressed, appeared to be sober, sane and serious. And soon, their focus became clear: They found stock car racing exciting and thought they would buy a car to join the fun.

If only it were that easy.

Veteran driver Mark Martin once described the difference between a showroom vehicle and a stock-car racer as being like the difference between miniature golf and the PGA Tour.

The word "stock" in the title of the sanctioning body, the National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing, had some meaning when coupes raced around the sand and road course in Daytona Beach in the late 1940s. But today, that meaning has all but disappeared.

"There are still a few pieces that are stock," said Jimmy Makar, senior vice president of Joe Gibbs Racing, a mechanical engineering graduate of Maryland and longtime crew chief on NASCAR's top circuit.

"Chassis? No, nothing stock. Engine? We still use a stock block from the manufacturer, but after that, it's all after market," Mr. Makar said, using a term that in NASCAR garages means buying very expensive custom-made parts.

"Anything stock?" asked Brett Bodine, former NASCAR driver and car owner who now helps oversee the organization's Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C. "The hood, the roof, the rear deck lid. That's about all I can think of. Speed and safety; racing had to move on."

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KEYWORDS: nascar; racing; stockcars
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To: GreenAccord

yep, I reeeeeely enjoy the camera shots from the cars.
Nice to see Massa win.


41 posted on 08/30/2006 9:51:59 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

I've tried to float the idea for years that these guys should weld roll cages and put driver's seats inside actual Monte Carlos, Fusions, and Chargers that roll off the assembly lines, and race them every year at the annual All-Star race.

Put racing tires on them, take off the side mirrors, headlights, tail lights, weld the doors shut, etc. whatever you've got to do to make them safe to race.

But use the same V8 engine, body, etc. as the cars we drive on the street. One race a year.


42 posted on 08/30/2006 9:55:53 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: kellynla
Not that I would pay it, but isn't there pay-per-view channels of F1 with in-car shots for the entire race?

Massa has been an incredible surprise this year, a nearly perfect team mate (hear that Fiscicella?). What do you think might have happened if the safety car had never come out and Michael and Massa led to the end? Do you think it would have been another Austrian GP deal with Schumacher passing Massa late in the race via team orders?
43 posted on 08/30/2006 9:56:54 AM PDT by GreenAccord (I just spell-checked MOONBAT. Shouldn't that be in the FR lexicon as a valid word?)
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To: kellynla

MotoGP is tops.
AMA drag racing can be interesting.
F1 for road racing.
Most everything else at the "pro" level is boring.


44 posted on 08/30/2006 9:57:13 AM PDT by jrp
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To: BaBaStooey

I have another idea for NASCAR, but it would never fly.

The Pennsylvania 500.

NASCAR racing cars travel from one end of Pennsylvania to the other while driving on the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Start at the Ohio border, first one to New Jersey wins. The crazy corners and lower-than-interstate-standard sections would be fun to watch, as well as the 2-3 mountain tunnels. Heck, any sort of NASCAR road race on an actual road rather than a road course would be awesome.


45 posted on 08/30/2006 10:01:51 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: GreenAccord
"Not that I would pay it, but isn't there pay-per-view channels of F1 with in-car shots for the entire race?"

The Speed Channel carries F1 racing live both Friday qualifying & the Saturday race & rebroadcasts the races on Saturdays.
46 posted on 08/30/2006 10:06:35 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: cripplecreek; NormsRevenge; WestCoastGal
I was always opposed to going to a single body in NASCAR but at this point they may as well.

They aready are...NASCAR is developing what they call the Car of Tomorrow, which is a single body for all teams. I'm not sure even the engines will be Dodge, Toyota, Chevy, or Ford in the COT. Maybe Norm and WCG, or others thay may ping, could tell us.

47 posted on 08/30/2006 10:13:00 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Wolfstar

At this point a few teams are producing engines for many of the other teams. Chances are any car on the track will have a Roush, Childress, Yates, or Hendrick engine.


48 posted on 08/30/2006 10:18:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Walkingfeather

"Now Lets say they raced with the same cars on open public freeways with cops and all, with innocent lives at stake... well that might be appealing"

It's kept real secret but occasionally they have a race from Reno-Las Vegas that is balls out winner take all with a $100k entry fee.

At least they used to.


49 posted on 08/30/2006 10:24:06 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: cripplecreek; Wolfstar
Lots of info at links below..

Car of Tomorrow

Car of Tomorrow to make race debut in 2007

50 posted on 08/30/2006 10:24:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks, Norm.


51 posted on 08/30/2006 10:27:14 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: kellynla
This was in a newspaper??

I wonder why? Because it sure ain't news.

52 posted on 08/30/2006 10:29:17 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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To: herkbird
People would even race rental cars

For a couple of years around 1968-69, Hertz had a small fleet of Shelby GT500 Mustangs for rent. At that time, Sports Car Club of America (SCCA) had classes for "production" cars including Mustangs and other pony cars. It's said that a few guys would rent a Hertz GT500 at the "low" weekend rate, pull the engine and drop it into a privately owned Mustang, enjoy a few races and then "restore" Hertz's rental in time for Monday morning return.

Once in 1968 I had reserved a Mustang at SFO. When I arrived, the clerk said they were out of stock Mustangs; would I "mind" taking a GT500 at the same rental rate? I managed to hide my disappointment, had a glorious trip down Silicon Valley, and returned to the airport via Half Moon Bay and the highway over the ridges. The only time I ever had the chance to drive one.

53 posted on 08/30/2006 10:32:01 AM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: Lurking in Kansas

hey, I just post 'em, I don't write 'em! LOL


not everybody has 10W30 running through their veins. :-]


54 posted on 08/30/2006 10:33:18 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Oh, I'm down with Speed Channel's coverage. I was thinking that there are satellite services (or international networks) that have pay per view coverage, licensed by F1 themselves, with selectable channels for in-car shots all the time.

In other words, once subscribed, go to channel 9762 to see the feed from Button's in-car camera, 9673 for Barrichelo, and so on. It would be neat to see the entire race from in-car, and be able to switch to a certain driver when they're dicing with opponents.
55 posted on 08/30/2006 10:37:26 AM PDT by GreenAccord (I just spell-checked MOONBAT. Shouldn't that be in the FR lexicon as a valid word?)
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To: BaBaStooey
NASCAR racing cars travel from one end of Pennsylvania to the other while driving on the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Start at the Ohio border, first one to New Jersey wins. The crazy corners and lower-than-interstate-standard sections would be fun to watch, as well as the 2-3 mountain tunnels. Heck, any sort of NASCAR road race on an actual road rather than a road course would be awesome.

LOL!!
Nah, none of them would last. Now, if you get the cars that race at the Dakar Rally or in the World Rally Championship, those cars could survive the Pennsylvania Turnpike. They could do a special rally section through Pittsburgh. Wouldn't that be fun! :-)
56 posted on 08/30/2006 10:40:00 AM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: GreenAccord

oh I don't know about that
of course there are in car video cameras on some of the cars that are telecast on the Speed Channel


57 posted on 08/30/2006 10:41:13 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kb2614

It would be fun to see NASCAR racing on highways that John Q Public has to drive on. I'd love to see how they'd handle my commute on I-75 every morning.


58 posted on 08/30/2006 10:44:40 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: GreenAccord

I believe they have that tv setup in Europe with the selectable in car cams, etc.
I know when they come to Indianapolis for the F-1 race there is a huge amount of tv equipment they bring along.
The track workers call it "Bernie-vision"


59 posted on 08/30/2006 10:48:20 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: jrp

Don't forget World Superbike. Go Haga!


60 posted on 08/30/2006 10:48:43 AM PDT by Keme (Bush Contra Mundum)
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