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Related story: Wary of FCC rules, CBS sets updated '9/11'

This is the famed documentary by brothers Gedeon and Jules Naudet, who were with FDNY personnel on 9/11, and captured rare footage of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center.

"The updated version, which has been in the works for a year, will include interviews with 20 of the firefighters from the downtown Manhattan firehouse where the Naudets had been filming for months. Robert De Niro, who narrated the film, will tape new portions next week. More than 39 million people watched the documentary during its first airing in March 2002."

While I can certainly understand the concern, this documentary, in its original form, has already aired on CBS. According to the related story above, "CBS is taking steps to make sure that no one is caught by surprise, including informing affiliates of its plans to air the broadcast and, like the previous two telecasts, including strong warnings in the promos before the broadcast and at various points during the two-hour telecast."

1 posted on 08/28/2006 7:22:45 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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This is a test case for CBS

If it's a test case for CBS, and they're allowed to air the profanity, all the other networks will then want to show their profanity-laced programs. And we'll be right back where we started, before these stricter rules went into effect.

If there is no out-pouring of complaints from the public, they will go further the next time.

Exactly right. If the public gives this program a pass, because of the subject matter, it will be setting a precedent, and we'll be back to the same old profanity.

115 posted on 08/28/2006 8:39:08 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Pornography kills.)
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Is this in response to the Janet Jackson thing?

Because if so .. no one was warned ahead of time about the contents of the half time show

They are warning ahead of time regarding the 9/11 documentary

Which is a totally different argument
117 posted on 08/28/2006 8:39:17 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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Good heavens. If any event calls for a healthy dose of profanity, this is it. I still cuss about it. Up your A$$, Osama. You and the camel you rode in on.


133 posted on 08/28/2006 8:48:58 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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It's a set-up for future programming and a pretty transparent one at that, since they've already shown it sans the hardcore profanity. Bleeps give a pretty good idea of what was said.

Or are the filmmakers really that incapable of taking 9/11 events and making a substantive, compelling program without raunchy language?


138 posted on 08/28/2006 8:50:38 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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What a dumb thing to complain about. 9/11 needs to be seen again, and not some bowdlerized version.


146 posted on 08/28/2006 8:56:22 PM PDT by Sloth ('It Takes A Village' is problematic when you're raising your child in Sodom.)
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Good let them show it. I don't care about p*ssy ears anyway. They can shut off the tv. This adult can take profanity (as you can see).


153 posted on 08/28/2006 9:01:55 PM PDT by The Cuban
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Unbelievable, they whine about "hardcore" profanity that occurred during the most defining moment of our time and yet they let profanity be uttered on almost every lame brain made up show on tv. And how do they feel about the soft porn shown on such paragons of virtue as MTV? I swear the insane are running the entertainment industry government oversite asylum.
163 posted on 08/28/2006 9:12:26 PM PDT by pepperdog
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"...contains a tremendous amount of hardcore profanity..."

That description would apply to OBSCENITY or INDECENCY.

Mere profanity is PROFANITY.

Profanity is traditionally prohibited in the hours of 6am-10pm. Safe harbor is the time from 10pm-6am.

Profanity is bad language.

Indecency is sexual innuendo (and doesn't even require bad words, it is the nature of the discussion).

Obscenity is detailed/graphic descriptions of sexual and excretory acts.

If something were "hardcore profanity" it would crossover into the realm of obscenity.

Words mean things.


165 posted on 08/28/2006 9:13:19 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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Is this the same group that complained about Schindler's List be aired uneditted on NBC a few years ago?


171 posted on 08/28/2006 9:21:58 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (http://folding.stanford.edu/ - - - -Folding@home. Free Republic team 36120)
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Back in the early 80's or so, some American pilots had a run in with Libyan jets, and the Americans were painted with radar and ended up shooting down 2 of the Libyans if I remember right.

I think it was NBC who had the flight recordings of that incident, and they played them, with the profanity, on the Nightly News.(John Chancellor at that time)

It raised a ruckus, but the tapes were very powerful.

182 posted on 08/28/2006 9:34:19 PM PDT by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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This is a documentary, which means its real life. This was an ugly horrible and devastating event...there is absolutely no reason why it should be edited in any fashion. If you think your children aren't mature enough to handle it, send them to bed or watch something else. If your kids are mature enough to handle it but you still wont let them watch it then shame on you. I know for a fact that learning to how to react and deal with real life situations that arent pretty and polite is a necessary skill. If you send your kids off to school and heaven forbid theres some kind of terrorist attack at said school, do you want them standing up pointing to the kid next them in disbelief because they said a "naughty word?"


190 posted on 08/28/2006 9:58:51 PM PDT by muryan
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We've seen the uncut version of the black disaster in New Orleans, now let's see the uncut version of the white disaster in New York.


193 posted on 08/29/2006 12:06:24 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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EVERYONE HERE IS MISSING THE POINT.

THIS IS MERELY CBS TRYING TO BECOME RELEVANT AGAIN.
215 posted on 08/29/2006 4:59:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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Its amazing to me that there can be a need to remake for dramatical or documentary purposes an event like this...

I don't see why...

I do not need a film (for whatever purpose) to remind me, or show me somethign different that I may not fully understand about a certain aspect of that day...

It is forever, without any need to be re-kindled, re-inspired, inbedded in my soul...

Remembering my wife was in the tallest potential target in downtown Houston...Telling her to just get her purse and leave the office...I told her not to get on the bus system, it would be clogged...I told her to go to a spot we both knew that was a relatively safe area till I went to pick her up myself...We'd deal with fighting our way home together...

It was not out of fear, but it was out of being prudent to remove yourself from a potential risky environment...

A lot of people around the country did that...

And then we all sat in front of TV's all over the place watching all of the scenes being worked, and knowing that more could've come our way...

I don't need a reminder...After five years, I don't need someone to tell me about 9-11...

I remember it everyday, and will do so for the rest of my life...It is something you cannot forget...


220 posted on 08/29/2006 5:39:22 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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"9/11," which will be shown in prime-time, contains a tremendous amount of hardcore profanity.

What? Surely not! Why, I have it on good authority that the witnesses and first responders never dreamed of using language stronger than "Mercy Me!" or perhaps "Dagnabbit!" in response to the horror unfolding before their eyes.

These morons need to STFU and get a life.

226 posted on 08/29/2006 6:06:42 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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I do wish there was an edited version out. I want my children to see this. I do not want this next generation's view of 9/11 sugar-coated in any way except for the absence of a 4-letter word (you know the one).


236 posted on 08/29/2006 6:36:20 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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You know, this is one point where the AFA is out of line.

For someone who owns the film on DVD and has made a point of watching it every September 11 for the past three years (and I will again this year, along with United93), I can tell you the "profanity laden" accusation is exaggerated. There are some F and S words, yes. But it is the real reactions of real people experiencing real horrors on a very real day.

If the AFA has a problem with that, tough.

249 posted on 08/29/2006 8:33:14 AM PDT by Houmatt (Democrats eat urinal cakes.)
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Forgive me if this point has previously been mentioned:
Why is it OK for CBS to air unedited profanity?

If/when that happens, can we expect Jim Robinson to allow a word for dirty-word tanscript here at Free Republic?

If not, why not?

257 posted on 08/29/2006 2:36:16 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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I understand that people would be concerned about certain words being on the television.
I am concerned myself, of course, with what my children watch..and monitor it VERY closely.

That being said...
By the time my child is OLD enough to see this documentary..he will already know the word F*&K and any other word that is spoken on the film.

It will probably be the first time we listen to those kind of words together....and I am sure hearing the F-Word will be the LAST thing on our minds.


265 posted on 08/29/2006 11:25:51 PM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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TV Gnatzi's with their panties in a bunch. There's nothing decent about 3,000 American's losing their life. To have 9/11 sanitized is tantamount to shading the truth.


268 posted on 08/30/2006 4:10:44 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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