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Plane Crashes in Lexington
WTVQ 36 Lexington ^ | August 27, 2006 | Jon Sasser

Posted on 08/27/2006 4:38:10 AM PDT by BigBlueJon

Edited on 08/27/2006 5:02:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Possible plane crash in Lexington, KY. My brother works security for Lexington UK Hospital and was just called in. No news locally or on major news outlets yet. I didn't want to post anything for fear of being wrong, but he's still waiting for an official call while on stand-by.

Update from WTVQ 36 Lexington:

A plane has crashed near the Blue Grass Airport this morning. No word on details at this time. We are told it was a commercial aircraft. Versailles Road is blocked as emergency vehicles circle around the site. We have live coverage beginning at 7:20am. Stay with Action News 36 for more details.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: airplane; bluegrassairport; comair; crash; delta; dl5191; kentucky; lex; lexington; plane; planecrash; terribletragedy; wreck
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To: gswilder

It is hard to tell, but it seems like runway 26 points towards a hillside.

A CRJ may not have been able to climb out over that.


261 posted on 08/27/2006 7:47:42 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: StAnDeliver
Live video: Not much left of the fuselage.

Source?

262 posted on 08/27/2006 7:49:03 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: pillut48
I have a terrible sinking feeling that this was not a 'natural' accident, but that someONE caused it (probably those Norwegian Amish people!!)--it will be interesting to see the passenger manifest...pass the tin foil, but it sure does seem that lately there has been an unusual rash of airplane indidents--too many to be simply 'coinkydink', if you know what I mean! Possible feelers into the American airlines, looking for weaknesses and exploiting them if possible?

All indications point to the fact that the pilot took off on the wrong runway. His name, I believe, is Jeff Hays. Doesn't sound like your run of the mill terrorist.

263 posted on 08/27/2006 7:49:10 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Chuck54
You may need to coffee up. I took that comment as sarcasm w/o the tag.

If you can understand that guys drivel, you must be one of those characters that can find the visage of the Virgin Mary on a slice of mushroom pizza.

264 posted on 08/27/2006 7:49:12 AM PDT by Stentor (It's almost 1992. Do you know where your Clinton is?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

At a normal takeoff speed and climb rate, there would be no problem making it over that hill.


265 posted on 08/27/2006 7:49:23 AM PDT by jcs1744
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To: StAnDeliver

I don't know if they carry only the fuel they need (plus reserves) for each leg, or they fill up at the beginning of the day and just use it as they go back and forth. A CRJ can carry well over 1,000 gallons of jet fuel...if it was fully fueled, there's not going to be much left of it after that gets through burning.

}:-)4


266 posted on 08/27/2006 7:49:56 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: jcs1744
At a normal takeoff speed and climb rate, there would be no problem making it over that hill.

But they would not have achieved normal takeoff speed with the shorter runway.

267 posted on 08/27/2006 7:50:52 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: don-o

hey don-o...

You're up early today. My friend just emailed me to say that her daughter wasn't on the plane. I'm so grateful. That was the first I heard of it. Wasn't even on Drudge. I tipped him though... Thank me.


268 posted on 08/27/2006 7:51:12 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: jcs1744

Like I said, just a gut feeling! Too many 'dots not connected' with all these recent problems with planes!


269 posted on 08/27/2006 7:52:36 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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Also reported that the survivor was another pilot utilitzing the jump seat to get to Atlanta.


270 posted on 08/27/2006 7:54:29 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: BP2
I've noticed recently that the planes are FULL. Hardly a seat to be had.

Is this the airlines answer to increase the revenue, sell all the unsold seats three days before the flight on Orbitz, Hotwire, Travelocity etc??? That fills the plane up and does increase revenue. It doesn't cost any more to fly it with ten seats empty than it does with those ten seats full, even at a reduced fare.

Second question: If it was overloaded would it go in tail first and leave the pilot as the survivor?

Fox is saying that there was something that happened at the end of the runway. The momentum of the plane would carry it a half mile I would think.
271 posted on 08/27/2006 7:54:47 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: StAnDeliver

Have the said the pilots name yet, the survivor?


272 posted on 08/27/2006 7:57:25 AM PDT by lula ( Islam IS the Anti-Christ)
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To: BigBlueJon

Another update:

(AP) -- Comair President Don Bornhorst has told a news briefing he cannot confirm a report the plane that crashed this morning in Lexington could have been using the wrong runway.

Blue Grass Airport Executive Director Mike Gobb said earlier this morning that the airport's shorter, 3,500 foot runway, should not have been used for the loaded Comair flight. It has not been officially reported that the shorter runway was used.

Fayette County Coroner Gary Ginn says it will be several hours before the bodies of the victims of this morning's plane crash near Lexington's airport are removed. At least 49 died. One survivor is reported in critical condition at the UK Hospital.

The Comair flight bound for Atlanta crashed a half-mile from the end of a runway just after departting Lexington at 6:10 eastern time this morning.

http://www.wlextv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5331173&nav=menu203_1_1


273 posted on 08/27/2006 7:57:29 AM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)
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To: Battle Axe

A full flight is not overloaded. All aircraft have very generous safety margins built-in.

Every seat occupied is no less safe than 1/2 full.


274 posted on 08/27/2006 7:57:51 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Battle Axe

Just talked to pilot who frequently flies out of Bluegrass Airport (non-commercial).

He says it is a bit confusing and he could see how mistake made by pilot, especially during early morning hours. However, not sure why ATC did not provide warning.

Looks to be pilot error at this point.

Prayers for all who lost loved ones.


275 posted on 08/27/2006 7:57:51 AM PDT by louisville slugga
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To: lula
No. The Comair president reported the actual pilot's name as Jeffrey Clay -- but not the pilot sitting in the jump seat. They just said he was a male.
276 posted on 08/27/2006 7:58:52 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Erik Latranyi
"A full flight is not overloaded. All aircraft have very generous safety margins built-in.

Every seat occupied is no less safe than 1/2 full."



You are right. Thanks for the clarification.
277 posted on 08/27/2006 8:01:19 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: Battle Axe

Well, it's all speculation, but the pilots could have realized at the last second they were running out of pavement and rotated, and the plane have enough momentum to "bunny hop" into the air before stalling and dropping again. If they only made it a half mile, at takeoff speed they'd cover that distance in 15-20 seconds or less. Fully loaded, they'd have no chance to get it off the ground in 3500 feet and keep it in the air.

It probably hit something at a fairly flat angle or in a slight descent (tail low), it wouldn't have had the time or the room to drop the nose a whole lot, I'd imagine. If it crashed in a field, though, and didn't plow through a lot of trees, I'm somewhat surprised there weren't more survivors, even with a massive postcrash fire.


278 posted on 08/27/2006 8:01:58 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: StAnDeliver
I know a Delta pilot who flies those plane and is based out of Atlanta. His first name is Doug, I can't get a hold of my contacts yet. OMG!
279 posted on 08/27/2006 8:02:25 AM PDT by lula ( Islam IS the Anti-Christ)
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To: louisville slugga

Flight crews are human and they do make mistakes.

Sometimes, like all of us, flight crews rush to get through the day.

I wonder where this flight crew was based and what their schedule for the day was going to be. That may support or deny my theory of a rush-job.


280 posted on 08/27/2006 8:03:16 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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