[KeepUSfree]

Just my observations. I have a friend with a son who is 4. He will be gay. Not that they treat him that way. And, I've seen many 4-year olds who do "feminie" things and grow up to be manly men. But, this kid will be gay.

There are all SORTS of things out there that we have no evidence for (yet). Doesn't make them untrue. We are still a mighty primative species...and, I have no doubt that the future will show what I proffer is true.

I have no agenda. I'm not gay and I think that being gay is unhealthy and, in many cases unnatural.

But, I still KNOW that some folks just are.

And, as I said, I think many - if not most gays are not actually "gay".(if you actually READ my post earlier you would see that I agree that many gays aren't gay - they are just "indoctirnated").

But, some are born to be gay. Period.

[scripter]

I have a friend with a son who is 4. He will be gay.

And with all the right coaching, he will.

Regarding the I Do Exist video:

A 22-year-old man stands before a classroom of middle schoolers, describing how he came out as a homosexual and going so far as to declare, "there are gay students in this classroom."

The young man is Noé Gutierrez, Jr., and the scene is one from It's Elementary, an award-winning 1996 video (widely aired in 1999) which aims to give "practical lessons on how to talk with kids about gay people."

You won't find that scene in Gutierrez's latest video, however. Although he requested permission to use it, producer/director Debra Chasnoff turned him down. Apparently, she doesn't want school children knowing what's happened since then.

You see, Gutierrez is no longer gay.

Gutierrez realized how confused he was and got the help he needed.

Here's a pointer to more information: How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together

[Antoninus]

But, some are born to be gay. Period.

No one is born predisposed to put their penis in another man's anus. Period.

[Antoninus]

Just my observations. I have a friend with a son who is 4. He will be gay. Not that they treat him that way. And, I've seen many 4-year olds who do "feminie" things and grow up to be manly men. But, this kid will be gay.

And with people telling him that over and over again, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I knew a fellow who had "gender identity" issues as a very young boy. He played with dolls, he pretended to have long, flowing hair, and generally acted like a little girl. His parents didn't do much to discourage the behavior, but raised him with a good concept or right and wrong in a stable, two-parent household. They also didn't just assume that he'd be a sodomite when he grew up. Now that he's older, he shows a healthy interest in dating---girls.

Funny how that happens.