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To: KeepUSfree
I have a friend with a son who is 4. He will be gay.

And with all the right coaching, he will.

Regarding the I Do Exist video:

A 22-year-old man stands before a classroom of middle schoolers, describing how he came out as a homosexual and going so far as to declare, "there are gay students in this classroom."

The young man is Noé Gutierrez, Jr., and the scene is one from It's Elementary, an award-winning 1996 video (widely aired in 1999) which aims to give "practical lessons on how to talk with kids about gay people."

You won't find that scene in Gutierrez's latest video, however. Although he requested permission to use it, producer/director Debra Chasnoff turned him down. Apparently, she doesn't want school children knowing what's happened since then.

You see, Gutierrez is no longer gay.

Gutierrez realized how confused he was and got the help he needed.

Here's a pointer to more information: How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together

50 posted on 08/25/2006 9:05:21 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: All
NARTH articles on the "born that way" theory

Here's a collection of articles on Homosexuality and Genetics

51 posted on 08/25/2006 9:09:44 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

Great discussion.


56 posted on 08/25/2006 10:01:48 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: scripter
You keep arguing a non-point. Since you don't actually READ my posts, I'll say it again. MAny, many gays are NOT actually gay...they were trained that way.

Some, however, ARE. Not EVERYONE can be changed.

BTW - how do you feel about Hermaphrodites. They're out there. Breasts, penis, vagina...the whole works. Just the way God made them. How do THEY fit into your "small little box".?

In fact, in college, I did a paper on a small island in which due to a VERY rare genetic disorder, 10-15% of the children are born female. At puberty, they become male. How do THEY fit into your tiny little box??

There are NO absolutes in nature. There is no "perfect genetic human". There is no "perfect" tree. There is no "perfect" anything. Life does NOT fit into your tiny little box - no matter HOW hard you try to cram it.

For religious folks, you sure don't understand God or this universe.

63 posted on 08/25/2006 11:22:07 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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