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No Brats Allowed!
MSNBC ^ | 8/15/06 | Victoria Clayton

Posted on 08/15/2006 6:24:16 AM PDT by steve-b

For Cindy Nooney's 3-year-old twin boys, playing with the Thomas the Train set at their local bookstore in Southern California is a major thrill. Jack and Sam push Thomas, Arthur and friends down the track, they run around the table, jump up and down — and, of course, they squeeeaal.

Nooney expects as much in the children's section of the store. But on a recent afternoon, she was surprised by an employee who confronted her, calling her darling Jack a tyrant.

"He was a little loud but this is a children's section," says Nooney. "They run a noisy, cavernous bookstore but they don’t want kids to make any noise? It just seems ridiculous and leads me to believe that they don't want kids, they want silent kids."

The bookstore is not the only place that likes quiet, controlled children — and isn't afraid to say so. Across the nation, there are signs of a low-burning uprising against children supposedly behaving badly in public.

Eateries from California to Massachusetts have posted signs on doors and menus saying "We love children, especially when they are tucked in chairs and well behaved" or "Kids must use indoor voices." In North Carolina an online petition was started last year to establish child-free restaurants — the petition loosely compared dining with children to dining with cigarette smoke....

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To: AppyPappy

Exactly.


201 posted on 08/15/2006 8:17:41 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: DocRock

Hilarious!


202 posted on 08/15/2006 8:17:54 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: MikeGranby

We instilled a 'code of behavior' before we took her to 'nice' restaurants. My parents did the same for my sisters and me.


203 posted on 08/15/2006 8:18:47 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: MikeGranby

I don't doubt there are situations that are out of a parent's control. Most, if not all parents/others recognize that when it happens. Apologizing to those around you goes a long way. It's the parents who do nothing, say nothing, when they can, that gripes me.


204 posted on 08/15/2006 8:19:27 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

> We instilled a 'code of behavior' before
> we took her to 'nice' restaurants.

What's a nice restaurant?


205 posted on 08/15/2006 8:20:23 AM PDT by MikeGranby
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I had two unaccompanied brats (about 7 & 9) next to me on a flight acting like idiots and very loud. I told them if they didn't shutup I'd stuff them down the hole in the toilet.

Did it work?

206 posted on 08/15/2006 8:20:42 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Like food and fun? Join the Freeper Kitchen ping list.)
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To: steve-b

Problem is, in healthy societies, what you define rude is called normal.


207 posted on 08/15/2006 8:20:50 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Pied Piper
I wasn't objecting so much to the term "breeder", although I think it's vicious -as if having children is somehow an animal act.

Cranking out children and then not raising them properly is an act more becoming to an animal than to a supposedly rational human.

208 posted on 08/15/2006 8:21:17 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Did it work?

Yep, although their shoes got hung up and I had to flush twice.

209 posted on 08/15/2006 8:21:48 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MizSterious; 7thson
At least, not until one of the little darlings trips a waiter and ends up underneath a tray of heavy plates.

As a waitress, I can tell you there is nothing more frightening or dangerous than a child running amok in a restaurant. Servers carry large trays, loaded with steaming hot food. It is impossible to see a child lurking beneath a tray until it is too late, and it's never the child who ends up covered in food--it is usually another server or a diner. Invariably, the parents of the junior comanche are engrossed in a cell phone conversation.

210 posted on 08/15/2006 8:23:11 AM PDT by grellis (I don't know, let me ask my I Ching)
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To: DManA

Oh, my. So rude behavior is normal? Civilization was based on manners, consideration for others, respect for boundaries, and perhaps most important, resonsibility. Otherwise, we're just savages with high-tech gadgets. I don't call that "healthy" at all. I call it "pretty darned sick."


211 posted on 08/15/2006 8:24:06 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MikeGranby

I don't think we are talking about isolated incidents. Those are expected. We are talking about behavior. If a child is squealing at the top of their lungs in a store, that is a behavior. Any parent worth their salt would say "Hey, my child is squealing loudly. Maybe I should check on him". Or "My child is squealing loudly. That might disturb others".

Children learn very early what is acceptable and what is not. We have friends who are big liberals, very anti-gun. But they can't "make" their kids ride with a seat belt on. The children just will not do it. But they use a seat belt in our car because they know it is demanded. There is no negotiation in that regard. Period. End of discussion.

Too many parents today are content with defeat when it comes to raising their kids. No man with balls hanging will allow his child to dictate the terms of acceptable behavior.


212 posted on 08/15/2006 8:24:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: MikeGranby
What's a nice restaurant?

One that doesn't have a play area.

213 posted on 08/15/2006 8:25:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Alouette

LOL. When my children were young, we used to get a LOT of compliments from strangers. If you are like my husband and I, when you get out of the restaurant you breathe one huge sigh of relief and think "Phew. Fooled 'em again."

Now that they are older, its expected, and usually delivered so no compliments.

(My children are very well behaved in public most of the time. However, at home they turn into little, squabbling.....we're working on it.)


214 posted on 08/15/2006 8:27:40 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Maceman
Very funny! Thanks for posting that.

But the sad side of that commercial is that Europeans ARE using condoms (or abortion) to the degree they are depopulating Europe of Europeans.

And that is why Europe is becoming Eurabia.

215 posted on 08/15/2006 8:27:45 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: DManA

LOL! Name three societies in which it is considered "normal" to allow one's children to run amok and disturb others in public.


216 posted on 08/15/2006 8:29:22 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: 2Jedismom

I sincerely hope I can raise my children like yours....now it's just a matter of having the first one! LOL.


217 posted on 08/15/2006 8:30:01 AM PDT by arizonarachel (Praying for a May miracle!)
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To: steve-b

When my son was a toddler, we avoided eating out. I couldn't enjoy my meal if I was worried about annoying other patrons. Now, that's he's older we bring his game boy and keep the sound off. Works like a charm when he starts to get fidgety.


218 posted on 08/15/2006 8:31:00 AM PDT by sasha123 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: Pied Piper

Waiters introduce themselves at Denny's?

;-)


219 posted on 08/15/2006 8:32:20 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: steve-b

My dreasm is a child free airline.


220 posted on 08/15/2006 8:32:37 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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