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God's Chosen People (Destruction of Israel called for by famous Norwegian writer)
Norsk Israel Senter (Translation of original Aftenposten article) ^ | August 5, 2006 | Jostein Gaarder

Posted on 08/10/2006 8:12:09 AM PDT by Basel2005

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To: marron

"It wasn't the Pharisee who helped the man who lay by the wayside, having fallen prey to robbers. It was a Samaritan; today we would say, a Palestinian."

Actually, Samaritans were inhabitants of Judah at the time of the split between North and South. They were considered apostate by the southern Israelites, but they certainly weren't "Palestinians". Samaratans were Jewish, they even built their own Temple, which they considered to be the true Temple of Israel.


21 posted on 08/10/2006 9:00:36 AM PDT by linear (Zealotry paints in black and white; evil sees only gray.)
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To: Basel2005

This man not only doesn't have a clue, he is evil! Absolutely sickening read.


22 posted on 08/10/2006 9:01:55 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Basel2005

Please post a barf alert to this article.


23 posted on 08/10/2006 9:02:04 AM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Basel2005
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The only way to combat this kind of crap is to show your support for Israel.  Wear it proud.  That's what will frighten these kooks.

24 posted on 08/10/2006 9:03:04 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: Basel2005


This Gaardner is truly a sick and morally absent man. If the name of the author was not posted, I would have thought that it was Ahmedinejad or Nasrallah. It is also very reminiscent of a speech that might have been heard in 1930s Germany.


25 posted on 08/10/2006 9:15:39 AM PDT by FarRightFanatic
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To: Publius6961
I agree his protestations are more appropriate to radical Islam than to the Jews. An Arab can live in Israel and be accorded respect and safety but a Jew or a Christian living in a Muslim country will be persecuted. The problem is Islam not the Jews. Even if there were no Jews in the world Islam would be at war with any culture that refuses to submit to its will i.e. the Philippines , India, Indonesia etc. and a host other nations where Islam has displayed its intolerance and its hate.
26 posted on 08/10/2006 9:16:12 AM PDT by Courdeleon02
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; Alexander Rubin; ...
Vikdun Quisling Alert

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

27 posted on 08/10/2006 9:24:27 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 79-82)
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To: Basel2005

QUISLING lives on!!!!


28 posted on 08/10/2006 9:25:12 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: hellinahandcart; leilani

From one of the reader reactions:


Middle East researcher Hilde Henriksen Waage was hardly surprised by the reaction provoked by Jostein Gaarder.

"If I had read Jostein Gaarder's article before it went to print I would have, pointedly, advised him: Get police protection, get a lawyer and leave the country," Henriksen Waage told Aftenposten.no.


http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1414428.ece


29 posted on 08/10/2006 9:31:38 AM PDT by bwteim
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To: Gingersnap
Ironically, it's writers like this guy who will be at the head of the line when Europeans are offered the "convert or die" option.

Oh, he'll convert happily in the name of multiculturalism.
Then he'll lapse back into secularism and be killed.

30 posted on 08/10/2006 9:34:03 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Basel2005

I would find it interesting to read what others are saying about this person. Maybe we can have a follow-up on it.


31 posted on 08/10/2006 9:39:04 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Basel2005
Everything the man says is wrong. He's stuck on stupid, stuck in a mindset that denies the bloodthirsty, bellicose nature of Islamofascism.

But he represents an interesting phenomenon. One which Israel and its supporters would do well to recognize. His statement demonstrates a new emboldenment among Israel's foes, an expression of intensity that has become more widespread since 911. More widespread and more acceptable in some quarters.

From 1948, when Israel was founded, to 2001, the tiny country experienced fifty years of war. 911 changed many things, among them the role of the US in the long conflict. With that changed role for the most powerful nation in the world came increased intensity in opinion, an example of which we see expressed above in its most anti-Semitic form.

My point is simply this: The conflict cannot withstand another fifty years at increasing levels of intensity. Something's got to give -- and soon. Let's hope our leaders are skillful enough to devise strategies that force the Islamofascists to give -- not a certain outcome -- else Israel may be facing the very existential crisis the author above predicts.

Statements like the one I've made are usually heavily denounced on this forum, but to me, given the history in the region, the demographics there, and all that's happened and is happening now, my opinion is merely a pragmatic appraisal of the situation.

32 posted on 08/10/2006 9:39:39 AM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Nachum

There's plenty here:

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/


33 posted on 08/10/2006 9:44:20 AM PDT by Basel2005
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To: hellinahandcart

In the meantime

Missing passport fears: The number of missing Norwegian passports is approaching 100,000 and the National Criminal Investigation Service (NCIS) fears that most of these are in criminal hands.

"there is no clear overview of how big this problem is....

The NCIS fears that many of Norway's missing passports are being misused, and they are particularly attractive since Norwegian citizens can travel visa-free to so many countries."

From same newspaper

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1417042.ece


34 posted on 08/10/2006 9:44:40 AM PDT by bwteim
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To: Basel2005
To act as God's Chosen People is not only stupid and arrogant, but a crime against humanity. We call it racism.

Tell that to Ahmadinejad. ;)

35 posted on 08/10/2006 9:45:47 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Basel2005

Thank you for that link. It is nice to see what others have written in response.


36 posted on 08/10/2006 9:50:16 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

This one is particularly good

Irresponsible word play: After the international furor sparked by author Jostein Gaarder's harsh criticism of Israel's policy in Lebanon, Professor Odd-Bjørn Fure was asked about how to conduct such a discussion without providing fodder for anti-Semitism.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1417276.ece


37 posted on 08/10/2006 9:52:15 AM PDT by bwteim
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To: Alouette

My first thought exactly - more crap from the land of Quisling.


38 posted on 08/10/2006 9:53:15 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: Basel2005

This norwegian "author" has eaten way too many pickled herring....


39 posted on 08/10/2006 9:55:09 AM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: Basel2005
May the world therefore have mercy upon the civilian population; for our prophecies of doom are not aimed at the civilian individuals.

There is no such entity as "the world", not in the way this author uses the term.

Yes, there is a planet, and people who live on it, but they exist in multiple political communities.

They cannot act together, whether to show mercy, or to sow devastation.

One of these political communities is now dedicated to the extermination of another. Rendering the target defenseless simply means that the target will be destroyed.

What a load of BS.

40 posted on 08/10/2006 10:02:19 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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