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1 posted on 08/06/2006 10:57:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Great. Not one US Border Patrol agent on duty will be doing their job after this outcome.
2 posted on 08/06/2006 11:00:13 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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"shooting him in the back violated his civil rights, "

Augh! THIS is like grit in my teeth!! Since when do criminal trespassers from another country have CIVIL RIGHTS? (I'm sorry. I thought "civil rights" were rights we were granted to LEGAL CITIZENS of the United States.) Rats. Wrong again, I guess...

3 posted on 08/06/2006 11:05:34 AM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain)
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are set to be sentenced Aug. 22 for shooting Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, a Mexican citizen, that was in the USA ILLEGALLY, on Feb. 17, 2005, in the small Texas, not Mexican, town of Fabens

Good news for Osbaldo, August 22nd is D-Day for the islamonazis to wipe all the infidels off the face of the map.

6 posted on 08/06/2006 11:12:45 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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IF this happens under a "Republican" administration, my the good Lord help us all if the Dems take control.


8 posted on 08/06/2006 11:13:14 AM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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So why do we have armed border agents there for if they can not pursue these people? How are they catching the million or so illegals that the border patrol says they captured (detained) i9f they don´t pursue them?

I guess the border patrol is just window dressing. Sarc


11 posted on 08/06/2006 11:15:33 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Unbelievable. Words fail me.


12 posted on 08/06/2006 11:27:00 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You're never more than a half-step away from a good note.)
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About the style of writing: Why is it that news stories now read like a book. Whether it's a border patrol agent or an illegal who's being sent back to her own country, we have to have a human interest angle included. I guess I'm hardhearted or something because I'm not moved by the "will miss out on these special family moments" inserts. I am, however, outraged and aghast at the seeming injustice and railroading of these BP agents at the hand of those they risk their lives to protect.

About the substance of the article: Surely, there is an appeals court in the future of this case. Isn't there?
13 posted on 08/06/2006 11:28:52 AM PDT by YankeeinOkieville
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Her arguments, along with testimony from other agents on the scene and that of the smuggler himself, swayed a jury.

Who sat on this jury? Was the trial even in English?

18 posted on 08/06/2006 11:49:51 AM PDT by Drew68
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This makes me so mad. I am at a loss for words.
Rush, where are you? Hannity, ditto. This calls for a mass uprising against this court.
Where in the he!! was this trial, Mexico City? Austin? These men put their lives on the line daily to keep this scum out of our country. And this is how we reward them?
I am going to write to my Senators and Congressman. Lot of good it will do, but I'll try. Both Senators voted to let scumbags like this walk into this country. I have never voted for a Democrat,but if one is vehemently opposed to ILLEGAL immigration, and runs against these two, I will change my ways.
I mean it. We have a better chance of fighting known enemies of the State than we do with these Benidict Arnold's in office.


19 posted on 08/06/2006 11:50:02 AM PDT by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit...)
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Homeland Security investigator Christopher Sanchez received a telephone call from Border Patrol agent Rene Sanchez about Aldrete-Davila's encounter with Ramos and Compean. Rene Sanchez stated "that Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila's mother, Marcadia Aldrete-Davila, contacted Rene Sanchez's mother-in-law, Gregoria Toquinto, and advised her about the BP agents shooting Aldrete-Davila. Toquinto told her son-in-law, Rene Sanchez, of the incident, and he spoke to smuggler Aldrete-Davila via a telephone call."

During the trial, the connection between Rene Sanchez and Aldrete-Davila confused the Ramos family, and "we questioned how an agent from Arizona would know or want to defend a drug smuggler from Mexico," said Monica Ramos.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Debra Kanof bristled when asked about the Rene Sanchez/Aldrete-Davila connection. "It's an unconscionable accusation that Sanchez is associated with a drug dealer," she said. "Most BP agents who are Hispanic have family from Mexico."
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No, corrupt prosecutor woman, it's a fact that this BP agent is related to a drug dealer through marriage. If the last name similarity isn't just a coincidence, so is the Homeland Security investigator. Where does this filthy buck stop?

22 posted on 08/06/2006 11:57:28 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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HALT! Or I say halt, again.

I said HALT!

I'm warning you. Don't make me say HALT again.

I mean it. If you don't halt right now, I'm going to say halt.

Thats it. HALT!!!

Thats it. Now you've made me real mad. I'm calling for backup, where we'll all say halt together.

No your really in trouble.

24 posted on 08/06/2006 12:06:00 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is sick.


25 posted on 08/06/2006 12:06:23 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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Outrageous!


27 posted on 08/06/2006 12:11:31 PM PDT by KoRn
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A Texas jury convicted the pair of assault with serious bodily injury; assault with a deadly weapon; discharge of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence; and a civil rights violation. Compean and Ramos also were convicted of four counts and two counts, respectively, of obstruction of justice for not reporting that their weapons had been fired.

Defending the border... pursuing drug smugglers... these are "crimes of violence???

The jury acquitted both men of assault with intent to commit murder. But the conviction for discharge of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence requires a minimum 10-year prison sentence. The sentences for the other convictions vary.

Unbelievable--they charged them with murder???

Kanof bristled when asked about the Rene Sanchez/Aldrete-Davila connection. "It's an unconscionable accusation that Sanchez is associated with a drug dealer"...

No, Ms. Kanof--what is unconsionable is that instead of setting up a sting operation to go after the drug smugglers and those who allegedly wanted to go on a Border Patrol killing spree, you chose to paint this as some sort of intentional murder mission by what appear to be fine officers of the BP.

...they broke Border Patrol rules about discharging their weapons and preserving a crime scene.

So give them the five day suspension.

The smuggler was given full immunity to testify against the agents and complete medical care at William Beaumont Army Medical Center, in El Paso.

How many pounds of Marijuana was that again?

...immunity granted to Aldrete-Davila and the other agents in exchange for testifying against Ramos and Compean.

Why did the other agents need immunity? Were they complicit in the drug smuggling? Did they also not follow procedure?

30 posted on 08/06/2006 12:42:37 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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How can good win out if bad is always protected over good.. this seems to be the pattern with everything in this world anymore.. don't defend yourself from harm or you will harm the harmer.


32 posted on 08/06/2006 12:55:18 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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ping


33 posted on 08/06/2006 1:00:04 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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"The administration is trying to intimidate front-line agents from doing their job," he added. "If they can't do it administratively, they'll do it with trumped-up criminal charges.

George Bush is dedicated to keep the borders open and the illegals flowing. What a piece of work he turned out to be.

He's hell bent on making certain he ranks lower than Jimmy Carter in the annals of American history.

34 posted on 08/06/2006 1:02:08 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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I'm at the point of giving up!


36 posted on 08/06/2006 1:19:23 PM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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Wow...


38 posted on 08/06/2006 1:27:32 PM PDT by Jonx6
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It is a violation of Border Patrol regulations to go after someone who is fleeing" .. "The Border Patrol pursuit policy prohibits the pursuit of someone."
39 posted on 08/06/2006 1:35:35 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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