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Washington University Researchers find almost half of kids with ADHD are not being treated
Washington University ^ | 8/3/06 | Jim Dryden

Posted on 08/04/2006 12:18:12 PM PDT by Teflonic

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To: Polyxene
Oh, and we all ate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for lunch and no one ever had a peanut allergy.

Those were the days...I keep hearing about all of these kids in my daughters classes are are allergic to almost everything you can think of...bread, peanut butter, sugar, chocolate...I'm waiting for some kid in her class to be allergic to air.

41 posted on 08/04/2006 1:22:07 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: nina0113

Ritalin, in a properly titrated dose for a PROPERLY DIAGNOSED child, is a help. The problem is this: kids are being 'diagnosed" behaviorally, while there is a perfectly viable and accurate clinical test available. And, the drugs are passed out like high-yield candy - where the dosages being used are way, way too big.

I have had 2 kids diagnosed clinically, put on the smallest dosage of ritalin, received proper therapy (where they are trained to recognize when they are paying proper attention via brainscan readings), and who have subsequently gone entirely off of the medication. They have been ritalin free for several years, while retaining their gains in the ability to sort through environmental noise.

One thing to keep in mind, though... The clinical test shows that up to 50% of those "behaviorally diagnosed" (think of a teacher saying Johnny can't sit still) do not have the condition. That means that up to or even more than half of the kids being drugged up have no reason to even be around ritalin. Of the remaining few that could benefit from it, the drug is over-dosage, and nobody is helping the kids learn how to manage their attention themselves.


42 posted on 08/04/2006 1:32:33 PM PDT by MortMan (There are 10 kinds of people in the world... Those that understand binary and those that don't!)
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To: Teflonic
ADHD is actually caused by Global Warming. You'll learn all about it in An Inconvenient Truth II.
43 posted on 08/04/2006 1:40:36 PM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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To: Teflonic

Yeah. That's the problem. Not enough kids on Ritalin.

That's the answer.


44 posted on 08/04/2006 1:45:11 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Teflonic

I did a quick scan......it did not say who funded the research. Indirectly it could be a ritalin manufacturer. Would also be curious to know if any of the researchers have a connection to companies or would benefit in some way from the increased drugging of kids


45 posted on 08/04/2006 1:45:25 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Singin' the blues with a smarmy Irish smile)
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To: Teflonic

If there is more ADHD, I bet its because of the parental tendency to allow infants and toddlers to vegetate in front of a TV, where there can now be found 24-hour baby and kid channels. Its been shown to affect brain development.


47 posted on 08/04/2006 1:50:47 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: webstersII

Personally I'm all for abolishing public schools entirely, and replacing them with a voucher system in the amount currently being spent on public school students. Make the vouchers redeemable by anyone, including homeschooling parents and private tutors, who the child's parents register as the child's educator in advance, and who can get the child to pass basic verbal and math tests, with passing score set at the 50th percentile of current public school averages. Pay AFTER the child passes the test (which must be administered in a different location from where the child regularly studies, and by people who have no financial interest whatsoever in who passes or how many pass. At the very least, this would raise the achievement level of 50% of the students currently in public school at no additional cost to taxpayers. Keep in mned that when capital expenditures (i.e. buildings, land) are included, most school systems are spending between $10,000 and $20,000 per year per child (with $10,000 being mostly in rural areas where land is cheap and teachers can be hired for less and students don't expect Olympic swimming pools, etc.).


48 posted on 08/04/2006 2:07:46 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Teflonic
The study found that most of the children without ADHD who took medication did have some symptoms of ADHD — some hyperactivity or problems with inattention — but not enough symptoms to meet formal diagnostic criteria as defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-IV). The study also found that most of the kids who took medication without an ADHD diagnosis had a twin who did have the disorder.

ok, i just do not understand this. one twin fully met the
diagnosis criteria and was taking medication. the other did
not meet criteria but was also taking medication because
their twin was????? what kind of nonsense is this??????
49 posted on 08/04/2006 4:18:38 PM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: zek157
I would have said something equally stupid 5 years ago. I would rather my child not be on concerta, but it helps her considerably.
As somebody who was only diagnosed at 31 years old I commend you for trying the treatment for your daughter. Many of us that have been properly diagnosed look back and wonder how our lives would have been if only we had been diagnosed earlier.

For kids who really have ADHD it's not just school that's hard, it's getting everything together in life so that you can be successful, so that you can be the person that you WANT to be.

Is ADHD over-diagnosed in children? Probably. Is it under-diagnosed in adults? Probably.

Either way if somebody tried to take me off Concerta, they'd have to deal with my wife, and it wouldn't be pretty.

50 posted on 08/05/2006 8:48:25 AM PDT by CLRGuy (If crypto is security, then trees are houses.)
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To: Polyxene

And after they realised how many kids were dropping dead after eating those sandwiches, they stopped giving them those things. ADD is a very real disorder, despite the rantings of folk psychologists. It's not simple "just boys being boys and being bored with school". It's more complicated than that. I have ADD and througout all my life, it's been very hard to concentrate on anything. I've had interests in many things but I just abruptly quit because I got distracted by something else. I've never been even close to concentrating on things until I started taking caffine pills, which are similar to ritalin, but without all the bad side effects.


51 posted on 08/05/2006 9:15:17 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (".... We are a nation of Americans. We are DECENDED from legal immigrants"- johnandrhonda)
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To: Madeleine Ward
About 10 years ago, I knew several couples, who each had 10-11 year old boys. Every one of those boys were on Ritalin. One of the guys I work with was told his kid had to medicated to stay in school. They chose to home school him. He finished high school early and is now in college. Without drugs.

I can't say that homeschooling is a panacea, but for my children and others, it overwhelmingly works amazingly and seems to be tailormade for children with attention problems.

52 posted on 08/05/2006 9:25:08 AM PDT by GoRepGo
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To: GodfearingTexan

After you walk in someone elses shoes you might know what you are talking about. I wouldn't wish the confusion and heartache ADD has brought my family on anyone. It isn't just about hyperactivity. I shouldn't get upset about the unfounded comments posted by people that don't know anything about ADD. I would and did say the same thing 4-5 years ago.
Perhaps there are kids on Ritalin/concerta that don't need to be. I don't pretend to talk to that issue. All I can talk to is my daughter's case. Please STFU and don't lump everyone together.

by the way 40 years ago dyslexia was not diagnosed either.


53 posted on 08/07/2006 9:44:04 AM PDT by zek157
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