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8/2 Middle East Live Thread
8/1 Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/2/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/01/2006 9:58:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

IDF: 400 Hezbollah down, 1200 to go

Report: 'Unprecedented' IAF presence over Baalbeck IDF commandos conducting raid deep in Lebanon; 3 soldiers killed in south Lebanon village

Israel sends up to 10,000 troops into southern Lebanon

Israeli Commandos Raid Hezbollah Hideout in Baalbek Hospital


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; daralislam; dhimmis; dhimmitude; hezbollah; humanshieldsrus; iran; islam; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; muslimcaliphate; ontolitani
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To: RDTF
fala Portuguese?

I thought it was Spanish for "don't mention it"...as in "Gratias! De Nada!"

1,361 posted on 08/02/2006 8:25:27 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: DCPatriot

the same in Port. :)


1,362 posted on 08/02/2006 8:26:16 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: GulfBreeze

One strong positive for Israel after this is over is the IDF and IAF will have a new generation of battle-hardened veterans to face the challenges of the next decade.


1,363 posted on 08/02/2006 8:27:25 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: Tree of Liberty

Otherwise, Olmert might find the government was about to fall in the middle of a war. Bad thing that would be...


1,364 posted on 08/02/2006 8:28:28 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Report: Bin Laden's son sent to operate against Israel



German newspaper reports Iran freed son of al-Qaeda leader from house arrest with aim of sending him to Syria-Lebanon border following outbreak of war between Israel, Hizbullah
Reuters


Iran has freed a son of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden from house arrest, a German newspaper reported on Wednesday.



Die Welt said the Iranian Revolutionary Guard released Saad bin Laden on July 28 with the aim of sending him to the Syria-Lebanon border. It linked the reported move to the outbreak of war between Israel and Lebanese-based Hizbullah.


"From the Lebanese border, he has the task of building Islamist terror cells and preparing them to fight together with Hizbullah," Die Welt said, quoting intelligence information.



"Apparently Tehran is counting on recruiting Lebanese refugees in Syria for the fight against Israel, using bin Laden's help," it added in a preview of a report to appear in its Thursday edition.



Western intelligence sources have long suspected that Iran is holding a number of al-Qaeda figures, possibly including Saad Bin Laden and Saif al-Adel, the network's security chief.



Al-Zawahri: Fight and become martyrs



Kamal Kharrazi, then Iran's foreign minister, said in January 2004 that Tehran had jailed about a dozen al-Qaeda suspects and would put them on trial.



"Our general view is Iran certainly does have a few al-Qaeda-related figures ... The general perception is Iran keeps these people as a bargaining chip," said a European counter-terrorism official when asked about the Die Welt report.



He said Shia Muslim Iran was not sympathetic to members of Sunni-dominated al-Qaeda but "they protect them as long as they think they can make use of them."



Al-Qaeda's deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri issued a video message last week in which, while not mentioning Hizbullah by name, he urged Muslims everywhere to "fight and become martyrs" in response to the conflict in Lebanon.



Israel accuses Iran of providing Hizbullah with missiles to use against civilian and military targets. Tehran, which armed and funded Hizbullah in the 1980s, insists it now provides only moral support to the group.

http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-4289,00.html

(08.03.06, 03:53)


1,365 posted on 08/02/2006 8:31:05 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Well...we learned that we can live side by side with Communism or Socialist states such as Cuba...so maybe that's why the intelligensia prefer to negotiate.

You cannot negotiate with radical islamists.

They are mad dogs that need to be put down.

I look at the death numbers from WWII and the subsequent purge enacted by Stalin...the Cambodian genocide at the hands of Pol Pot, etc..

If Iran ever gets The Bomb, millions of muslims are going to die someday...in my lifetime.

Btw, I'm 3 weeks from sixty.

1,366 posted on 08/02/2006 8:32:28 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

now that's a juicy target to go after


1,367 posted on 08/02/2006 8:32:29 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: DCPatriot

Exactly! There is no moral question when an individual directly threatens the security of our country IMO. I can name plenty of these nutwad Islamofascists that would qualify under those terms.

And legally, don't take this for certain, but I "believe" all that would need to happen is for President Bush to revoke EO 12333. It was never a law and it's not in our Constitution to disallow assissinations.

But there still remain some problems I can think of at the top of my head- after 9-11 we had to start scrambling to start building intelligence relationships in these ME countries where there were virtually none before, and this takes time, and also the CIA would have to once again be allowed to hire counter agents that are often criminals as well to help with the deed. We've seen what the leftists in Congress have done to demoralize our own soldiers- can you imagine the shrill coming from them if it was revealed we were using criminal elements to do assassinations?


1,368 posted on 08/02/2006 8:33:11 PM PDT by hegemony
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To: RDTF
ah but CNN is live right now and Fox has O'Reilly again..

Lousy TV or worse TV. Guess I will go watch Discovery or the History Channel or the Military channel

1,369 posted on 08/02/2006 8:33:47 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: DCPatriot
honestly believe we should be actively dropping missles down chimneys on a monthly basis on these b*stards.

East to say hard to do with these cowards.

1,370 posted on 08/02/2006 8:34:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Despot of the Delta
Moshe and Golda would have bitch slapped Hezobollah back to the stone age

Did not seem able to do that with the Fatah or the PLO.

1,371 posted on 08/02/2006 8:36:14 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

All this talk, i don't see anyone coming to help lebanon, if the Israelis were to attack Syria, the new Arab line would be "if Israel attacks Iran we will stand by our Muslim brothers".

Arab Countries will Stand by Syria if Threatened, Saudi Minister Says

Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 08:35 PM

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia,(SANA)

Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal announced Wednesday that the Arab countries will stand by Syria if she encounters any threat or in case of any aggression on any Arab country.

"The US didn't take any stance to prevent Israel from striking Lebanon… we hope that if there was an Israeli inclination to provoke Syria, the US would adopt a deterrent stance," Minister al-Faisal said in press conference in Jeddah.

"There is a message to stop the unjustified Israeli aggression on Lebanon, and what is important now is that all crises the Middle East encountering are resulted in the basic problem… the Arab-Israeli struggle," the Saudi Minister added.


1,372 posted on 08/02/2006 8:36:26 PM PDT by jhp
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http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tayyar.org%2Ftayyar%2Findex.php&langpair=ar%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Tayyar Ticker - Lebanon - machine translated

03.36 : Israeli warplanes targeted ethnic Bridge for the second time in Akkar

03.25 : Israeli warplanes bombarded by the road in the north of Lebanon

03.21 : Israeli helicopters at low altitudes in the region of Al-Zuq

03.15 : raids on the northern Hermel and Akkar

03.12 : Israeli warplanes carried out four attacks on the southern suburb after a week-long suspension. and a circled low over Beirut at dawn today

03.07 : unconfirmed information from the sound of an explosion in the area Dhabia

03.06 : Ostraliin evacuating nationals and Germany would not open the door of immigration

03.00: News of the bombing of the Al-Sahel Dhabih

02.55 : Heavy aviation flights over Akkar

02.50 : heavy Israeli shelling in the southern suburb of Beirut

02.45 : warplanes change to the southern suburb

02.40 : According to the Associated Press : The United Nations announced that it negotiated Israel to allow the entry of vessels to the shores of Lebanon

02.30 : The International Red Cross will transport oil from ships to overcome the worsening fuel crisis in Lebanon

02.20 : Hartz : dead Israeli Ayta people

02.15 : According to Reuters : hearing the sound of an explosion in Beirut

1,373 posted on 08/02/2006 8:36:50 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: All

Haaretz Ticker:

06:10 Malaysian PM: Security Council lacks the courage to condemn Israeli attacks (Reuters)

05:10 Lebanese police: IAF attacked targets near Lebanon-Syria border (Israel Radio)

05:07 Lebanese media: IAF targeted Hezbollah compound in Dahieh neighborhood (AP)

04:33 Central bank: War costing Israel about NIS 1 billion per week (Haaretz)

04:10 Report: Palestinian killed by IDF gunfire in Gaza (Reuters)

03:36 Two rockets hit Maalot area; no casualties (Israel Radio)

03:31 Report: IAF strike kills Palestinian, wounds another in Gaza (Reuters)

02:55 IAF warplanes renew bombing of Hezbollah stronghold in Beirut suburbs (Reuters)

02:15 Report: Explosion heard in Beirut (Reuters)

01:59 IDF soldier killed in fighting in south Lebanon village of Ayta a-Shab (Haaretz)

01:24 IDF tanks and bulldozers enter southern Gaza near Rafah (AP)


1,374 posted on 08/02/2006 8:40:16 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: RDTF

Thanks, and this time I really AM going to get some sleep. LOL I cannot even spell at this point. DC- be glad to keep this discussion going tomorrow with ya- it's not hopeless for sure that this can't be done or won't be done when push really comes to shove in the near future, and as far as I'm concerned- the sooner the better.

Take care everyone!


1,375 posted on 08/02/2006 8:40:19 PM PDT by hegemony
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Psalm 94

1 O LORD, the God who avenges,
O God who avenges, shine forth.

2 Rise up, O Judge of the earth;
pay back to the proud what they deserve.

3 How long will the wicked, O LORD,
how long will the wicked be jubilant?

4 They pour out arrogant words;
all the evildoers are full of boasting.

5 They crush your people, O LORD;
they oppress your inheritance.

6 They slay the widow and the alien;
they murder the fatherless.

7 They say, "The LORD does not see;
the God of Jacob pays no heed."

8 Take heed, you senseless ones among the people;
you fools, when will you become wise?

9 Does he who implanted the ear not hear?
Does he who formed the eye not see?

10 Does he who disciplines nations not punish?
Does he who teaches man lack knowledge?

11 The LORD knows the thoughts of man;
he knows that they are futile.

12 Blessed is the man you discipline, O LORD,
the man you teach from your law;

13 you grant him relief from days of trouble,
till a pit is dug for the wicked.

14 For the LORD will not reject his people;
he will never forsake his inheritance.

15 Judgment will again be founded on righteousness,
and all the upright in heart will follow it.

16 Who will rise up for me against the wicked?
Who will take a stand for me against evildoers?

17 Unless the LORD had given me help,
I would soon have dwelt in the silence of death.

18 When I said, "My foot is slipping,"
your love, O LORD, supported me.

19 When anxiety was great within me,
your consolation brought joy to my soul.

20 Can a corrupt throne be allied with you—
one that brings on misery by its decrees?

21 They band together against the righteous
and condemn the innocent to death.

22 But the LORD has become my fortress,
and my God the rock in whom I take refuge.

23 He will repay them for their sins
and destroy them for their wickedness;
the LORD our God will destroy them.


1,376 posted on 08/02/2006 8:40:27 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sageb1

What are you guys trying to watch?


1,377 posted on 08/02/2006 8:41:21 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Just why is it so hard?

These people on that video are prominent muslims who appear in public.

Remember that umbrella with the needle on the end that jabbed a spy at a bus stop? He goes home and fall face first into his potato salad and nobody's the wiser.

1,378 posted on 08/02/2006 8:42:21 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

This one interests me:

02.50 : heavy Israeli shelling in the southern suburb of Beirut


Is this naval bombardment?


1,379 posted on 08/02/2006 8:42:38 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: hegemony; DCPatriot

if you think things are getting better at CIA, try this on for size:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1675576/posts


1,380 posted on 08/02/2006 8:44:25 PM PDT by oceanview
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