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Our moral culpability for Qana
worldnet daily ^ | July 31 06 | buchanan

Posted on 07/31/2006 7:04:51 PM PDT by churchillbuff

Within 48 hours, it was apparent Israel was exploiting Hezbollah's attack to execute a preconceived military plan to destroy Lebanon – i.e, the collective punishment of a people and nation for the crimes of a renegade militia they could not control. It was the moral equivalent of a municipal police going berserk, shooting, killing and ravaging an African-American community because Black Panthers had ambushed and killed cops.

If Israel is not in violation of the principle of proportionality, by which Christians are to judge the conduct of a just war, what can that term mean? There are 600 civilian dead in Lebanon, 19 in Israel, a ratio of 30-1 – though Hezbollah is firing unguided rockets, while Israel is using precision-guided munitions.

Thousands of Lebanese civilians are injured. Perhaps 800,000 are homeless.

Yet, whatever one thinks of the morality of what Israel is doing, the stupidity is paralyzing. Instead of maintaining the moral and political high ground it had – when even Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan were condemning Hezbollah and privately hoping Israel would inflict a humiliating defeat on Nasrallah – Israel launched an air war on an innocent people. Now, 87 percent of Lebanese back Hezbollah, and the entire Arab and Islamic world, Shia and Sunni alike, is rallying behind Nasrallah.

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For two weeks, Bush seemed unable to find a word of criticism for what our friends in Israel were doing to our friends in Lebanon. He publicly sent more bombs to Israel. He and Condi emphasized that America did not want a cease-fire – yet.

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Rubbing our noses in our own cravenness, "Bibi" Netanyahu took time out, a week ago, from his daily appearances on American television denouncing terrorism to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the terror attack on the King David Hotel by Menachem Begin's Irgun, an attack that killed 92 people, among them British nurses.

This was not a terrorist act, Bibi explained, because Irgun telephoned a 15-minute warning to the hotel before the bombs went off. Right. And those children in that basement in Qana should not have ignored the Israeli leaflets warning them to clear out of southern Lebanon.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel
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To: churchillbuff
The man is neither off his meds nor loopy. The man is pure evil.
21 posted on 07/31/2006 7:18:36 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: churchillbuff
It's good of Pat to accept moral culpability for Qana, since it was staged by anti-semitic terrorists using human shields to frame Israel, and Buchanan is a pro-terrorist anti-semite.
22 posted on 07/31/2006 7:19:38 PM PDT by Invisible Gorilla
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To: churchillbuff

A paraphrase of an OLD quotation is in order here:

Dear Mr. Buchanan, I am sitting in the smallest room in my house. I have your article in front of me. Soon it will be behind me.


23 posted on 07/31/2006 7:20:00 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: churchillbuff

Cana is a propaganda stunt..


24 posted on 07/31/2006 7:20:03 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: bwteim

BINGO:)


26 posted on 07/31/2006 7:21:06 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: churchillbuff

I think Pat hates Israel more than Nasrallah does.


28 posted on 07/31/2006 7:22:22 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: churchillbuff

Soon Pat will be hanging around over at DU and loving every minute of it!


29 posted on 07/31/2006 7:22:26 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: churchillbuff

Pat, dadgumit, you are so out of your mind on this subject.

I've seen the videos. You've seen the videos. The Hezbollah have seen the videos. What part of self-defense do you not understand?

If a criminal was shooting at Shelly from behind a neighbor's house, would just curl up on the couch and let them? I'm thinking you'd probably place a few rounds at the corner where that feller stood. And if one round accidently hit a neighbor, God forbid, I sure as hell wouldn't hold you accountable for trying to defend you family.

Pull your head out and smell the coffee beans bud. Just damn...


30 posted on 07/31/2006 7:22:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: skr
I've heard him on the radio a couple of times in the past week and he sounds like he has an axe to grind. He's been grinding it since Miami-Dade in 00'.
31 posted on 07/31/2006 7:22:38 PM PDT by Edison (I don't know what irks me more, whether they lied or the incompetence.)
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To: sgtbono2002

I like your plan.Why can't you be the President, darn.


32 posted on 07/31/2006 7:22:39 PM PDT by exit82 (If Democrats can lead, then I'm Chuck Norris.)
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To: churchillbuff

That does it, Im gonna send Pat a bagel


33 posted on 07/31/2006 7:22:54 PM PDT by woofie
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To: churchillbuff

He insists on conflating Lebanon with Hezbollah.

If Lebanon is Hezbollah, then Lebanon is complicit or guilty of Hezbollah's attacks on Israel. Remember, Hezbollah has been rocketing Israel for years. Every Hezbollah attack is an attack on civilians. Does this need to be repeated? Every Hezbollah attack is an attack on civilians. This recent attack was one more; combined with the murder and capture of Israeli soldiers, combined with almost identical attacks by Hamas, also aimed at civilians, it was the final straw.

Lebanon had the responsibility to disarm Hezbollah. Of course, that is difficult since Hezbollah is Lebanon, not only because Buchanan says so, but because Hezbollah is a significant part of the Lebanese government.

If Hezbollah is outside Lebanese government control, as they have always claimed, then Israel is liberating Lebanon. The Lebanese can't play it both ways.

In any case, the building in Qana was the site of repeated missile launches. Who would fill such a building with children? This is grotesque. The people who did that bear "moral culpability" for the death of those children. Israeli gunners can't know the area around the missile launchers has been filled with kids; the people who put them there, and put the launchers there, they did know.


34 posted on 07/31/2006 7:22:56 PM PDT by marron
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To: SE Mom

We bad;)


35 posted on 07/31/2006 7:23:11 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: churchillbuff
" though Hezbollah is firing unguided rockets, while Israel is using precision-guided munitions."

Ummm.......... Pat, big difference. Hizbullah go to great trouble to fire missiles from buildings with the greatest number of civilians they can find (eg in Quana), while the Israelis go to great trouble to make sure they don't fire any missiles close to peolpe's homes.
It does affect the number of civilians that die in any conflict you know.
36 posted on 07/31/2006 7:23:12 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: churchillbuff

Although they both rank somewhere below pond scum, I actually think Pat is lower than John Kerry.

Pat Buchanan has redefined "low".


37 posted on 07/31/2006 7:23:25 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: wolf24

I agree that Cana was a propaganda stunt. Pat should know the truth of this, but he isn't seeing it for whatever reason. All that's doing is destroying whatever shred of credibility he had left. It's sad to watch this guy go down that path as far as he has.


38 posted on 07/31/2006 7:24:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: churchillbuff

Pat Buchanan playing the race card. Now I have seen everything.


39 posted on 07/31/2006 7:25:08 PM PDT by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: churchillbuff
Buchanan wrote, "Now, 87 percent of Lebanese back Hezbollah, and the entire Arab and Islamic world, Shia and Sunni alike, is rallying behind Nasrallah."

As if the Arab and Islamic world hasn't been supporting Hezbollah, directly or indirectly, since its inception. Arab leaders were annoyed by the timing of Hezbollah's attack, not the attack itself. No doubt the leaders of the Arab street wanted consultation by Syria and its master, Iran, before putting the Hebollah pawn into play.

And what are those deliberately targeted Israeli civilians if not innocent? You won't hear Buchanan complain about their deaths. Why? Because Buchanan is a loathsome, despicable, antisemitic demagogue, with no credibility whatsoever. Calling him conservative, paleo- or otherwise, dishonors all conservatives.
40 posted on 07/31/2006 7:25:11 PM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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