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Post-Invasion Intel Showed WMD Went To Syria
Captain's Table Blog ^ | 29 July 2006 | Morrissey

Posted on 07/29/2006 5:44:49 AM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: shrinkermd
For some reason the Bush administration wants to ignore this issue big time.

I wonder why?

81 posted on 07/29/2006 10:13:25 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (John Bolton for Secretary of State)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
you say: "The administration has given up on the idea of selling the WMD point"

Or we'll have an "October Surprise?"
Most of us had pretty much given up on any serious investigation on the NYSlimes treasonous leaking of security data as weeks went by with nary a blip on the radar.
But now,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1674125/posts

"WASHINGTON, July 28 — A federal grand jury has begun investigating the leak of classified information about intelligence programs to the press and has subpoenaed a former National Security Agency employee who claims to have witnessed illegal activity while working at the agency. ....

So maybe some more cards are being held close to the vest?
82 posted on 07/29/2006 10:13:58 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: Dog Gone
The remarkable thing is that none of them appear to have been furnished to Hezbollah. You have to wonder why not.

That would be because, although "The Chinless Wonder" is nowhere near the politically astute and canny wolf his father was, he isn't a total idiot, either. Give any of those little "toys" to Hezbollah, and they would in short order use them on Israel which would spell the doom of not only Bashir Assad's reign, but the entire nation of Syria as well...

the infowarrior

83 posted on 07/29/2006 10:16:14 AM PDT by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: brushcop
Our sons and daughters are risking and sometimes paying with their lives in this war and these people treat it like some sort of game.

You ascribe this to the wrong party.

You want the republicans to screech and scream, wave their hands and point their fingers, makes jackasses of themselves? (At least the demRats have an excuse - they are, after all the party with the jackass logo)

Republicans are more wont to work quietly behind the scenes while they get their ducks lined up, rather than playing to the media for sound bites...

84 posted on 07/29/2006 10:19:38 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: panthermom
We Rockyfeller gave Saddam plenty of notice we were coming

Saddam was strutting around confident in his pals from Germany, Russia and France that assured him they would block any UN resolution allowing US to attack.

Since he had them all, including the UN, in his pocket, he was sure we would not attack = also taking into consideration the 'lob a bomb and call it quits' policy of the Clinton years.

But Senator Rockyfeller went to SYRIA and other ARab countries and told them that Bush was dead serious and WAS going to attack.

That is when the rush got on to get the WMD's out of the country.

I am still waiting for Rockyfeller to be brought up on charges.

What's that you say? ice cubes are plentiful in Hell?

85 posted on 07/29/2006 10:28:22 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: panthermom
I swear I remember Colin Powell talking of trucks seen by satalitte before the war started moving across the border

You remember correctly. He showed a satellite video = everyone ignored it.

Powell is a great man, but he was not strongly Conservative...and backed down to easy or went against the WH too often

86 posted on 07/29/2006 10:32:02 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: shrinkermd
American intel has long claimed to have seen these convoys streaming across western Iraq into Syria, and this provides a more complete picture as to what they did when they arrived.

I recall this being announced within the first days of the war, then pfffffft! Not a word about it since. Big time cover-up going on.

87 posted on 07/29/2006 10:34:12 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (John Bolton for Secretary of State)
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To: kjo
There is NOT a chance our liberal media will give this any serious coverage. The MSM in their support of Democrats have to some degree actually become anti-American.

It's not just the Demmocrats. Bush and the establishment Republicans don't want this out either.

88 posted on 07/29/2006 10:36:34 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (John Bolton for Secretary of State)
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To: ldish
[...i am for one sick of this whole affair...the Israelis and the us govt under Bush are not using the opportunity...for what ever reason...to rid ourselves of both the Syrian and Iranian islamofacists at the time when it could be done by Israel and / or us.]

"We're going to have to fight the Russians Iranians and Syrians eventually anyway. It might as well be now while we've already got the army here to do it."

89 posted on 07/29/2006 10:49:42 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (John Bolton for Secretary of State)
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To: Grampa Dave
This is all about protecting "our friends", France, Russia, Germany and China, who could have cared less about "international law and UN sanctions" given the opportunity to make billions selling Saddam whatever he wanted. Remember how hard these four tried to circumvent our going in to Iraq? And I bet you're right, Bush gave the Russians enough time to get the WMD's out, for the reasons you cited. But I would add one more: The United Nations would have been irreparably damaged by the revelation of the top nations on the Security Council flaunting Security Council directives. The Oil-for-Food corruption (also covered up, BTW) would have been the last straw. By covering up these misdeed, Bush saved the UN.
90 posted on 07/29/2006 10:59:23 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (John Bolton for Secretary of State)
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To: ldish
Well that just does it.

All our problems will be quickly solved if we put Idish in charge.

IDISH FOR PRESIDENT!

Hey, you may be "sick of this whole affair" - but I can double guarantee you that the 'whole' you know is no more than the tip of the ice burg, if that. You say "Bush is a pacifist" who has "lost his nerve"

I'm sure we'd be much better off with Gore or Kerry...

In the meantime, might I recommend a simple way for folk to get a smidgen of an inking what goes on in the world: read some Tom Clancy.

His novels may be ficion - the storyline and characters are made up - but the mechanics of what goes on behind the scenes world-wide, are a good World Reality 101 course.

An excerpt re Clancy:

"Clancy's military plotting and scenarios are considered so plausible that his books, fiction and nonfiction, are particularly popular in the US military and intelligence agencies. He has been invited to lecture at the Pentagon several times, and Department of Defense officials regularly offer Clancy un-classified background briefings on upcoming weapons projects."

91 posted on 07/29/2006 11:06:08 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: shrinkermd
I posted this about a month ago in a different thread on the same topic...

I wonder what the repercussions of our acknowledgment of being in control of a large stockpile of WMD would be in terms of the problems involved with their disposal. If you read the article by Ion Mihai Pacepa, a Romanian, who is the highest-ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc, here...

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030820-081256-6822r.htm

In the article, he states "All chemical weapons were to be immediately burned or buried deep at sea... Chemical weapons, especially those produced in Third World countries,which lack sophisticated production facilities, often do not retain lethal properties after a few months on the shelf and are routinely dumped anyway. (A note here... not retaining lethal properties does not mean that the chemicals have turned benign, just that it may now take a gallon of the stuff to do what a drop would formerly do).

All well and good for the Soviets or their clients, but...

Our forces would certainly have custody of the inventory and would therefore be expected to handle its disposal. Do you really think we would get a pass on dumping at sea or old fashioned burning?. I think not. If memory serves. at the end of the first Gulf War, we blew a huge stockpile of chemical munitions in place and exposure to the low level residuals from the combustion products were being blamed for Gulf War Syndrome.

Before you know it, we'll be expected to build one of those billion dollar incinerators like we use to destroy our domestic stocks of chemical weapons. We'll have to pass EPA inspections and file environmental impact studies, then deal with N.I.M.B.Y lawsuits and in a few years the neighbors will be suing us and not Sadam over cancer clusters. Also, won't that facility be an uber terrorist magnet, not to mention the convoys hauling stuff from stockpiles from all over the country?.

Maybe thats one of the reasons we want to leave 'em where they are. Quite frankly, I trust this administration to do what it thinks is right for our Country and it's national security, and it appears that they have weighed the political benefit of exposing the existence of the WMDs vs. the present stance. I, for one, applaud an administration that is willing to take a political hit while it does what is best for our security, for whatever reasons, which I, as a civilian may never know.

Just a thought.
92 posted on 07/29/2006 11:43:32 AM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: brushcop
Our President basically stands ALONE surrounded by cowards, back-stabbers and fifth columnists, there are exceptions of course, but I think they can be counted on one hand but history tells us that this is often the case.

I agree with your post. The Republicans in Congress have been fearful to stand firmly in support of the President, and more importantly, our sons and daughters (my son, too), who are putting their lives on the line to protect us from terrorists who want us all dead.

But I do think it needs to be said that it is the Rats who are 'playing games' above all.

And frankly, I don't think they give a rip about any of our soldiers. And some, like Murtha and Kerry, are actively working to get our guys killed, IMO.

And I don't know what kind of game makes any decent human being do that.

93 posted on 07/29/2006 11:58:28 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: shrinkermd
NOT ALL OF IT. See this site, Federal Agent says a number of sites were never even looked into. He had intel of WMD's at these sites. http://www.davegaubatz.com/index.html
94 posted on 07/29/2006 12:00:58 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: shrinkermd
ANY BETS THAT SOME OF THOSE WMD ARE IN LEBANON?

Why does Koffi want 72 hour hiatus?

So the Hezzies can get them BACK to Syria before the whole world finds out?

95 posted on 07/29/2006 12:23:06 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Dog Gone
The remarkable thing is that none of them appear to have been furnished to Hezbollah. You have to wonder why not.

I am not so sure about that!

96 posted on 07/29/2006 12:25:12 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Tom, you are probably correct on all of your points.


97 posted on 07/29/2006 3:15:31 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: AFPhys

Maybe A$$ad has to make the same decision that Krazy Kadafi made a few years ago.

"That is to leave the dark side and come over to our side or shock awe will be heading your way. Do you want to be like your old buddy $addam or the Dead Zark pig?"


98 posted on 07/29/2006 3:20:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: shrinkermd

I knew this over two years ago from an article in the Dutch publication De Telegraf.


99 posted on 07/29/2006 4:13:43 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: MizSterious

I'm not making any comment about the veracity of the translation. I'm just poking fun at the use of the word "tripe" instead of "trip".


100 posted on 07/29/2006 6:00:34 PM PDT by randita
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