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God's Chosen People (braying)
self | 7/29/06 | bray

Posted on 07/29/2006 5:05:28 AM PDT by bray

As a longtime Born Again Christian American it has become obvious that the greatest people in history are the Jews. These people have overcome every conqueror since the dawn of mankind and still have their culture intact. Without Israel, America would not exist. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights come right out of the Judea-Christian values that are built on the Bible and Old Testament standing on the Ten Commandments. The One True God’s chosen people have lived among the Palestiniacs throughout history and lived to talk about it. What other culture could ever manage this insurmountable task.

The basis of the Western World was formed by the Jews. When the entire ancient world was struggling to have anything resembling a culture, the Jews were forming a bedrock solid, God fearing society. Though they thouroughly fell short of God’s plans or laws, they continued to fall back on his Mercy moving their society forward. Whether they were ruling themselves or slaves to an enemy they continued to search for what would please God.

Christianity is an outgrowth of the Old Testament as we believe he was their Messiah bringing us Salvation and a direct relationship to the Living God of Abraham. Christians follow the Old Testament as well as the New Testament which has more relationship and less law than the Judaism. We both believe in the Ten Commandments and study their Prophets and Kings who had great wisdom and strength but human failures. God punished the Jewish people over and over due to the weaknesses of man. Even David and Solomon who were perhaps the greatest Kings in the Bible sinned in momentous ways and lost their thrones for a time.

The Bible is a letter from the Lord giving a clear path to follow with stories of the Jewish Kings and Prophets showing us the punishments of not following God’s way. It is clear that life would always go well when the Jews followed God’s rule. Conversely things went terribly wrong when they fell to temptations. The Founding Fathers of America were all followers of Christ and well versed in the Bible. They were well aware of how the Bible was the perfect roadmap for how to treat your brother as well as your enemies. They knew that the Jews were the people to follow and the Bible warns against following kings rather than following God.

The Hebrew people’s trust in God gave them a clearly formed society that allowed them to organize their gummit in a more organized manner. While the rest of the ancient world was trying to decide if it was ok to kill children and living hedonistic lifestyles, the Jews were organizing their families, tribes and armies. God gave them clear laws in how to maintain the family unit as well as integrating it into tribes and eventually an efficient society. This allowed them scholars within the religious communities to follow God’s word leading them to a moral advancement that no other society developed. The Romans for example fell in to decadence due to their lack of any moral direction which was their ultimate downfall.

The Jews were given Ten Commandments very early in their formation to set the parameters in both individual responsibility as well as societal responsibility. No other culture had understood the importance of Thou shall not bear false witness which is the foundation of society and commerce. This gave them a huge advantage in trade throughout the region and became the main brokers in import/export as well as banking in ancient times. Trade and business is where they made their mark and has been the model for business throughout the ages.

Christianity is an outgrowth of Judaism although Jesus died on the cross to give us the perfect sacrifice to God ending Jewish Law. Christianity not only believes in the Old Testament but goes one step farther in following the Lord Jesus Christ’s words and model as how to live our lives. America was built on this book and our families follow the model Jesus and the Jews. The irony is that Israel basically follows our form of gummit.

Our business has the advantage of truth. Many countries around the world do not follow the importance of their word. They will back out of orders and not do what they promise which causes extra backup and legal documentation that our businesses do not need. Business takes this risk under consideration which raises margins to cover those risks. That does not happen in America with established businesses because we follow the Jewish model. We do business on a handshake to complete a transaction which is quicker and easier than using Suits. This is one of the major reasons we are more efficient than other countries and societies.

Jews have historically been in the very top of business, science and arts due to their hard work and dedication to their endevors. They have been the toughest fighters in history and have developed many of the best weapons. During WWII they designed much of the technology that the Germans had and was one of the reasons they lost when Hitler sent the Jewish engineers to the death camps.

For a people who make up a couple of percent of the World’s population this people has accomplished amazing things. This why they are the greatest people to have walked on the face of the earth. These are God’s people and continue to live in God’s graces. Their belief in God and their strict following of the Commandments and Laws has formed a strong bond among their families, tribes and culture. They are the foundation of our Christian faith as well as the Foundation of our Bill of Rights and Constitution. Without the Jews we would not have a Country and the World would be a terrible place w/o their leadership. The Jews are the Greatest People to have ever walked the Earth.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters Shalom Israel


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To: wmfights

Money, weapons transfer....etc...


21 posted on 07/29/2006 8:24:35 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Jackie222

There you go. What a difference it would have made if the Jews had accepted Jesus Christ as their Messiah. Someday it will happen but in the meantime too much blood has been spent needlessly. Too many lives snuffed out unnecessarily.


22 posted on 07/29/2006 8:26:26 AM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: funkywbr

So you Jewed God down?? ;0)

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel


23 posted on 07/29/2006 8:28:31 AM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: taxed2death

Money, weapons transfer....etc...
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I'm sorry I'm not following your reasoning. You originally posted that America would not exist without Israel. If anything the opposite is true.


24 posted on 07/29/2006 8:50:38 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: wmfights

Hint: Israels friends are few and far between.


25 posted on 07/29/2006 8:59:03 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

"Hint: Israels friends are few and far between."
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I'm not much for these veiled discussions. If there is some reason America would not exist but for Israel please say so.


26 posted on 07/29/2006 10:02:29 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: wmfights

Israel would have been wiped off the map years ago if not for American support. Nothing "veiled" about it. Common sense actually.


27 posted on 07/29/2006 10:28:47 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
"Israel would have been wiped off the map years ago if not for American support. Nothing "veiled" about it. Common sense actually."
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So how does that translate to "America wouldn't exist if not for Israel"?
28 posted on 07/29/2006 10:32:14 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: wmfights

It's s symbiotic relationship.


29 posted on 07/29/2006 10:33:41 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

"It's s symbiotic relationship."
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How so?

I still don't see where you come up with the idea that America would not exist without Israel.


30 posted on 07/29/2006 10:38:42 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: wmfights
Read the article above. Pay specific attention to the third sentence. Then reread the article again.
31 posted on 07/29/2006 11:06:26 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Chode

ROFL!


32 posted on 07/29/2006 11:34:05 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: taxed2death
Can't answer the question because you don't want to. That's fine, but we could have saved a lot of time if you said so from the beginning.
33 posted on 07/29/2006 11:44:01 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: RFC_Gal

ping


34 posted on 07/29/2006 12:04:14 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: bray

And this leads to the crux of the life-or-death conflict now taking place.

The One True God of Jews and Christians is a Merciful God. He is many other things, but both the Old Covenant and the New Covenant teach mercy, which sincere followers take to heart.

Allah/Satan is without Mercy. It is not an ethic or value of mohammedanism. They know we show mercy when possible and that this gives them an "advantage."

The real advantage, however, as you have stated IS obedience to and trust in the One True God, as His way ultimately leads to peace and His goal is peace.

Allah/Satan only lives by the sword and will die by the sword.





35 posted on 07/29/2006 1:06:32 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Down with "Proportionality" ...YES to Israel, NO to terrorism)...(((AM YISRAEL CHAI!)))
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To: La Enchiladita

I knew you would like this post. It is the follow-up of the Mooselip post. God Bless your Work.

Pray for W and Our Troops


36 posted on 07/29/2006 7:55:07 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: bray

Hey he came to us with a product, we bought it, and others repackaged and resold it.

Like I say Why go through the middle man when you can get it directly.

Though I can't say in the end it's cheaper that way, look what's it's cost us.

Shalom too.


37 posted on 07/29/2006 8:04:06 PM PDT by funkywbr
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To: Jackie222
They made one deadly mistake. As a nation, they rejected Messiah.

Many things happen in fulfillment of prophecy.

Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

I am not saying I understand; but there it is.

38 posted on 07/29/2006 8:17:48 PM PDT by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: Jackie222

A "deadly mistake", only in the eyes of some Christians. Familiarize yourself with WHY the Jews reject Jesus as messiah before you make such an ignorant statement. They know their Holy book...as well, and better, than you know yours.
You might want to check out this link for starters. http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.html

If that's not enough, check out my links page. I was born and raised Christian, raised my children Christian...but have come to believe the Jews have it right. I really don't care what anyone chooses to believe...but can't help feeling more than annoyed with those who infer they've got the only way to God.


39 posted on 07/29/2006 8:46:54 PM PDT by 1 spark (See my links...and Jeremiah 16:19)
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