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A Modest Proposal To Abolish Universities About Time
fredoneverything.net ^ | July 25 2006 | Fred Reed

Posted on 07/25/2006 7:36:41 PM PDT by Niuhuru

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To: CitizenUSA

You sure hit the nail on the head! Why does tuition at most Universities keep shooting up? It's because they have a steady supply of government funding in the form of low interest loans, tuition assistance, and grants.

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This is exactly what we will see if voucher and tax credits ever fund K-12 education.


21 posted on 07/26/2006 4:07:41 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Niuhuru
Not to mention that a lifetime of religious and moral values are trashed within about one semester. And what goes on in the average dormitory is not pretty.
22 posted on 07/26/2006 4:53:20 AM PDT by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: Niuhuru
I agree with much of it and disagree with much of it as well, but let me say that this:

See, first you learn that you have to finish twelve years of grade school and high school. The point is not to teach you anything; if it were, they would give you a diploma when you passed a comprehensive test, which you might do in the fifth grade. The point is to accustom you to doing things you detest.

is absolutely, 100% true.
23 posted on 07/26/2006 5:42:14 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Windsong
Good luck finding doctors, dentists, lawyers, engineers, writers, programmers, etc etc :)

Hey, my dad knows more about most equipment he works on than the engineers who designed it. But he can't be an engineer, you see. Didn't go to college. So instead of making 60 dollars an hour for engineering work, he makes 14 per hour for the engineering work that is part of his job.
24 posted on 07/26/2006 5:43:37 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Niuhuru

To be fair to universities, however, my program was notably un-politicized. Not so for many other programs.


25 posted on 07/26/2006 5:47:09 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Niuhuru

It boogles the mind how Fred can be so wrong, so often on such a variety of subjects. You would think that the law of averages would kick in and he'd be right on something at least once or twice.


26 posted on 07/26/2006 5:51:38 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: exhaustguy
Most of the leftist garbage is absent from engineering, science, and math courses.

Physical sciences and math, yes. Biological sciences, no.

Biological sciences were long ago coopted and converted into providing a "scientific" foundation for marxism and loopy leftist secularism. Abortion, euthansia, PETA-style moral equivalence between humans and bacteria (just to name a few), are all built on that corrupt "scientific" foundation which the left's most distingushed professors of biological sciences have labored mightily to establish and maintain.

27 posted on 07/26/2006 5:57:20 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: exhaustguy
Most of the leftist garbage is absent from engineering, science, and math courses.

Physical sciences and math, yes. Biological sciences, no.

Biological sciences were long ago co-opted and converted into providing a "scientific" foundation for Marxism and loopy leftist secularism. Abortion, euthanasia, PETA-style moral equivalence between humans and bacteria (just to name a few), are all built on that corrupt "scientific" foundation which the left's most distinguished professors of biological sciences have labored mightily to establish and maintain.

28 posted on 07/26/2006 5:58:25 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Windsong
Good luck finding doctors, dentists, lawyers, engineers, writers, programmers, etc etc :)

Heh, heh, heh. I've been working as an engineer for the last 12 years, and all I've got is a BA in "Performing Arts", and an MS In "Criminal Justice."

If you can act, you can do anything.

29 posted on 07/26/2006 6:05:14 AM PDT by P8riot ("You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone)
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To: Niuhuru
and you can use the shotgun on any tenured intrusion who offers advice. They tend to be spindly. A twenty-gauge should be sufficient.

LOL!!!

30 posted on 07/26/2006 7:06:25 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Northern Alliance

You're right, it was a good rant. What's funny is how this article will no doubt be pointed to by weepy libs as an "attack" on education or something. I am amused by the university mentality, and how those living within the system are so damned scared of that dirty, smelly thing the rest of us call "real life". It's one of my favorite hobbies, watching "intellectuals" squirm (because of course they're not intellectuals; they merely hold onto a specific orthodoxy, and refuse real challenges to it, the exact opposite of what they claim to be doing).


31 posted on 07/26/2006 7:20:06 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.savethesoldiers.com/)
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To: Niuhuru

While I don't think colleges & universities should be abolished, I think they should be restricted in terms of who is truly college material.

I always felt that these places were oversold. Everyone & his mother is encouraged to spend 4 years there -- and for what? Training that is better acquired on the job. Or a liberal arts degree which, with $2.00, gets you a ride on the subway in NYC.

College is fine if you either need a professional degree (i.e. law, medicine) or you truly love scholarship. Otherwise, the debts racked up in tuition costs will cancel out any anticipated financial gains.

Hopefully the U.S. might adopt the European university system, which was far more restrictive in its choice of students. The majority of ones I've seen here seem to have majored in booze, like this professor.


32 posted on 07/26/2006 8:17:58 AM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: Niuhuru

Wow... thanks for posting that. Never heard of this guy before, will read more about him.


33 posted on 07/26/2006 12:29:13 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Amnesty_From_Government.htm)
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To: Niuhuru

Agreed! What a waste for the most part. What a scam for the most part.


34 posted on 07/26/2006 12:38:40 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: traviskicks

If anyone's interested, there are similar type articles and stories collected here:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/college.htm

Fred Reed's piece has been added to it.


35 posted on 07/26/2006 1:06:22 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Amnesty_From_Government.htm)
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To: TR Jeffersonian

ping


36 posted on 01/17/2007 4:32:19 PM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: P8riot

Sounds a lot like a show I used to watch called “The Pretender”, good show imo.


37 posted on 08/05/2007 5:55:54 PM PDT by Xenophon450 (Ah, the liberals, they are numerous but not good for much.)
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To: traviskicks

bump!


38 posted on 04/22/2008 10:13:34 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Niuhuru

Abolish Universities? No, no, no....turn them into Trade Schools. We need more of those.


39 posted on 11/26/2008 7:47:41 PM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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