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No need to ask if Bush has no shame
Capital Times ^ | 7-25-06 | Dave Zweifel

Posted on 07/25/2006 5:14:54 PM PDT by SJackson

I really do try hard not to dislike George W. Bush as a person.

But then he pulls a stunt like he did last week in vetoing a bill that would have allowed researchers in this country to get more help in exploring the many promises of stem cells.

The veto was almost beside the point. It was the smarmy way he and the cynical entourage with which he has surrounded himself played to the TV cameras and the religious zealots they hope will storm the polls for small-minded Republicans like himself this fall.

Parading an entourage of cute little kids onto the stage (can't you picture the frantic search Bush's underlings conducted to round up enough of these kids for the event?), he claimed that they were all given life by a frozen embryo that had been created for in vitro fertilization, implying that none would be alive today if the bill he was vetoing had been the law of the land.

In other words, those crazy scientists in our universities like the UW's Jamie Thompson, I guess would be willy-nilly grabbing frozen embryos from the clutches of prospective parents and snuffing out lives like the little toddler Bush was holding in his arms.

Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. The embryos the nation's stem cell researchers would have been permitted to use are ones that were to be discarded. But, as we all know so well after these past six years, truth never gets in the way of a George Bush political initiative. If we can lie about the need to go to war, surely we can lie about stem cell researchers.

Too bad there wasn't another stage where grandpas and grandmas with Alzheimer's, or young people in wheelchairs for life because of spinal injuries, or young fathers suffering from the early stages of Parkinson's could have been paraded in front of the cameras to demonstrate the cruelty of Bush's veto. Embryos are created every day. The lives of those suffering people are forever lost unless, of course, the promise of stem cells is someday realized.

And then there was the blatant hypocrisy.

Here was a president pandering to his righteous religious base about the "sanctity" of human life. The same president who repeatedly lied to get his country into a war that has taken the lives of tens of thousands of human beings and injured and maimed many thousands more.

Somehow I don't want to be lectured about the value of human life by the likes of him.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adultstemcells; federalfunding; stemcells
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To: coconutt2000
I really do try hard not to dislike George W. Bush as a person. I bet the editor added that line to soften up the piece.

Trying it out for Dean this fall. Dean will never pull it off.

21 posted on 07/25/2006 5:23:22 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: SJackson

I always feel better when I realize these anti-war people are paying the salaries of our troops through their income taxes. :-)


22 posted on 07/25/2006 5:23:56 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: SJackson

"Somehow I don't want to be lectured about the value of human life by the likes of him."

Somehow I don't want to be lectured about anything by the likes of Dave Zweifel.


23 posted on 07/25/2006 5:26:17 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: SJackson
Always carry this with you when you read the Crapitol Slimes

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24 posted on 07/25/2006 5:26:26 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: SJackson

"Dave Zweifel"

Funny I thought it said "Arnold Ziffel"


25 posted on 07/25/2006 5:26:46 PM PDT by GoforBroke
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To: SJackson

The loonie Left hates Bush because he cares about little ones being used as fodder for science...now that's a recipe for success...


26 posted on 07/25/2006 5:27:00 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: SJackson
The same president who repeatedly lied to get his country into a war that has taken the lives of tens of thousands of human beings and injured and maimed many thousands more.

Zzzzzzz... Man, get a new cliche, willya, guys? If Bush 'repeatedly lied" let's see the lawsuit, let's see the Dems call for impeachment, come on, bigmouth.

Somehow I don't want to be lectured about the value of human life by the likes of him.

Somehow I don't think George Bush even knows who you are, so he wasn't lecturing you, now was he?

27 posted on 07/25/2006 5:31:16 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.savethesoldiers.com/)
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To: Rocko

Any time anyone of you get upset over someone who is leading the government (of any country) that it is God who sets men up over nations, and it is God who brings them down. God knows who is going to serve his purpose. Old Pharoah was not so good but he served the purpose of teaching the children of Israel some lessons. God knows the end from the beginning, and we can trust him. Pray for Isreal. We can call on the same God that Moses called on, and he is the same today, yesterday, and forever.


28 posted on 07/25/2006 5:32:29 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: SJackson

I'm Dave Zweifel, former fetus who made it alive

29 posted on 07/25/2006 5:32:53 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: SJackson

Capital Times is an ultra-left site. I don't know why you bother posting their articles.


30 posted on 07/25/2006 5:35:43 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: GoforBroke
Dave Zweifel" Funny I thought it said "Arnold Ziffel"

I read "Adolf Zweifel." Funny how his words give us these perspectives.

31 posted on 07/25/2006 5:38:38 PM PDT by Rocko ( Hezbollah isn't crying UNCLE; they're crying UN....)
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To: JeanS
Capital Times is an ultra-left site. I don't know why you bother posting their articles.

1-They're interesting, as evidenced by the replies which generally exceed 2 or 3.

2-These same arguements will be made this fall, and in 2008. Better to see them and think about responses now.

I admit I'm a fan of reading the other side.

32 posted on 07/25/2006 5:38:42 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: SJackson

They keep repeating these lies about Bush having lied, as if it was some sort of religious cult. Pretty scary!

Clearly the IQ gets overwhelmed by this hatred for anything that is right and decent.

It must be the neurological damage all that dope has on the brain that makes these bozos talk so stupid and deranged.


33 posted on 07/25/2006 5:39:13 PM PDT by observer5 ("Better violate the rights of a few sometimes, than of all always!!)
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To: SJackson
How sad it must be to be Dave Zweifel.
34 posted on 07/25/2006 5:41:37 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: SJackson
ALL......REPEAT..........ALL medical advances, cures and treatments that have come from STEM CELL research.......have come from ADULT STEM CELLS....not........REPEAT.........NOT from embryonic stem cells.

In fact NO advances, cures or treatments have EVER been attributed to embryonic stem cells and NONE are likely with or without government funding for the next several decades.

35 posted on 07/25/2006 5:43:42 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: eleni121

Don't let my human like appearance fool you, I am not a person, I am nothing more than tissue and cells.
36 posted on 07/25/2006 5:44:15 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: TheCrusader

In other words, those crazy scientists .... would be willy-nilly grabbing frozen embryos from the clutches of prospective parents and snuffing out lives like the little toddler Bush was holding in his arms.

Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. The embryos the nation's stem cell researchers would have been permitted to use are ones that were to be discarded.




I saw the President's speech, and all of these kids WERE "leftovers" from parents trying to conceive. [Once the Mom had a baby (or 2 or 6) I guess the remaining embryos are kept on ice.] The kids were adopted as embryo's - leftover embryos. "They are not spare parts - they are children".


37 posted on 07/25/2006 5:44:20 PM PDT by geopyg (If the carrot doesn't work, use the stick. Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: SJackson

I don't believe you Mr. Zweifel.


38 posted on 07/25/2006 5:46:27 PM PDT by sauropod (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
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To: msnimje

Good going!...better than mine by far!


39 posted on 07/25/2006 5:47:20 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: TheCrusader
"But then he pulls a stunt like he did last week in vetoing a bill that would have allowed researchers in this country to get more help in exploring the many promises of stem cells."

GWB vetoed Federal funds for research. Researchers can do anything they damn well please, they just can't feed from the Federal trough. There are billions of dollars out there to fund viable research in stem cells. GWB drew the line at Federal funds going into "EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH". There are a multitude of promising programs in stem cell research that do not involve the human embryo.

God Bless George Bush for protecting the innocent unborn.
40 posted on 07/25/2006 5:49:03 PM PDT by Lacroix
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