Bill Press gets taken in by Lovenstein IQ hoax

billpresssshow.com ^ | July 18, 2006 | Bill Press

[lowbridge]

From the page of Bill Press' podcast website:

July 18, 2006 Parting Shot

Nate wrote this at 8:56 am:

In six years in the White House, George W. Bush has screwed up so many things, you have to wonder: Is he unlucky or incompetent?

Well, now we know.

Thanks to the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton, Pennsylvania, which just released a study of the IQ of twelve American presidents, over the last 50 years. And the results are – well, not surprising.

The average IQ of six Republican presidents – Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 – was 115.5. President Nixon topped the list, at 155.

The average IQ of six Democratic presidents – Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton – was 156. With President Clinton leading the class at 182.

The smartest president of the last 50 years?

You guessed it: Bill Clinton, with his 182 IQ.

The least intelligent president of the last 50 years?

You guessed it again: George W. Bush, with his rock bottom IQ of 91: seven points lower than his Daddy.

So now we know. Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Social Security, Medicare, Stem Cells, FEMA, the deficit, immigration…

The reason George Bush has screwed up in so many areas the last six years.

He’s not just incompetent. He’s just plain dumb – the dumbest president in the last 50 years. And, probably, the dumbest president ever!

That’s my parting shot for today. I’m Bill Press.

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(Yes, his article also accepts readers comments)

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[Bigh4u2]

"Cool it, everybody! I just sent Press an email from Nigeria and I'm gonna get rich!"

LOL!

:0)

[DBrow]

Ah, yes. I know people with that and it even clouds their ability at work.

[Echo Talon]

that number for Clinton is wrong, when I took those IQ tests it said that i was in the top 1% and i averaged out between 130 - 145 ...

[MikeA]

I have no doubt they are. That was an Einstein level IQ. Billy Jeff is no Einstein.

[RichInOC]

God bless Bill Press...because in the prison rodeo that is the left these days, somebody has to be the clown.

[Recovering_Democrat]

TYPICAL LIBERAL LAMEASS MEDIA: DON'T CHECK THE FACTS, JUST GO GO GO WITH IT IF IT MAKES THE PRESIDENT LOOK BAD!

TRUTH? WHO CARES? ACCURACY? WHO GIVES A DAMN?

The LameStream Media are fools.

[wolfcreek]

You guessed it: Bill Clinton, with his 182 IQ.


Smart guys are always thinking of new things to put up interns butts.

[RichRepublican]

We need a Snope for Snopes!

[SuziQ]

Savor the irony of someone insulting another's intelligence while being taken in by a hoax.

It IS rich, isn't it?

[You Dirty Rats]

Only someone with a low IQ would believe that President Clinton has an IQ of 182. My impression of those presidents is that none of them were geniuses, but all of them except Ford were gifted.

But Hillary Rodham vos Savant Clinton has an IQ of 230, making her the smartest woman in the world.

[ModelBreaker]

BS! i'd be suprised if he could get 125

What, interns?

[Liberty Valance]

Bill Press....you're an idiot! LOL!!!

[Mordacious]

Well. An IQ of 182 is nearly *six* full standard deviations above the mean Caucasian IQ of 100. To get an idea of the idiocy of this "study," one need only remind oneself that the two most intelligent ethnic groups on the planet - the Ashkenazi Jews and the Hmong - are lucky to manage two full standard deviations.

95% of the population has an IQ below 125, but I've yet to meet anyone who believes himself a member of that group :)

[proud American in Canada]

Savor the irony of someone insulting another's intelligence while being taken in by a hoax.

LOL!

[HawaiianGecko]

Instant Messaging Intelligence Quotient (IM IQ)

http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0148.html

3.1 Discover Another User's IM IQ

Before chatting with another user over the network or adding that user to one's Jabber roster, it can be helpful to get a sense of how intelligent or unintelligent that person is. This is done by requesting the person's IM IQ from that person's server by sending an IQ get qualified by the 'jabber:iq:iq' namespace to the person's bare JID (user@host) rather than full JID (similar in this regard to the functionality of vcard-temp [2]).

Example 1. Requesting Someone's IM IQ

<iq type='get'
    from='kindanormal@example.com/IM'
    to='stupidnewbie@example.com'
    id='imiq1'>
  <query xmlns='jabber:iq:iq'/>
</iq>
    

The server then returns the person's IM IQ, expressed as a REQUIRED <num/> integer between zero and 256, and an OPTIONAL <desc/> containing a natural-language descriptive phrase associated with that range of integer values.

Example 2. Receiving Someone's IM IQ

<iq type='result'
    from='stupidnewbie@example.com'
    to='kindanormal@example.com/IM'
    id='imiq1'>
  <query xmlns='jabber:iq:iq'>
    <num>66</num>
    <desc>moron</desc>
  </query>
</iq>
    

3.2 Discovering One's Own IM IQ

In order for a user to discover his or her own IM IQ, the user sends an IQ get without any 'to' address.

Example 3. Requesting One's Own IM IQ

<iq type='get' id='myiq'>
  <query xmlns='jabber:iq:iq'/>
</iq>
    

Example 4. Receiving One's Own IM IQ

<iq type='result' id='myiq'>
  <query xmlns='jabber:iq:iq'>
    <num>83</num>
    <desc>dull</desc>
  </query>
</iq>
    

A user may not agree with his or her IM IQ as computed by the server (after all, everyone thinks they are above average). Therefore it is possible that a user may attempt to change his or her IM IQ by sending an IQ set to the server:

Example 5. Attempting to Set One's Own IM IQ

<iq type='set' id='myiq'>
  <query xmlns='jabber:iq:iq'>
    <num>143</num>
    <desc>genius</desc>
  </query>
</iq>
    

However, allowing users to change their own IM IQs is unacceptable, since it would make such information unreliable. Therefore, if a server receives such an IQ set, it MUST return a <not-allowed/> error to the user, and MAY further decrement the user's IM IQ as a result.

 

 

 

[DManA]

They also debunked the GHWB legend about George at the grocery store scanner.

[Zakeet]

"I remember when Chelsea was in about 8th grade. Ex42 said that he could no longer help her with her math because he had not had room in his schedule for "higher math" when he had been in school. I interpreted that to mean that he had not gone beyond Geometry...at the most. His transcripts have never been revealed. He is a genius at politics and self-promotion. That's the extent of his thinking skills."

"the New York Times had a piece just prior to the 2004 elections showing an expert on IQ testing believes ... Al Gore's [IQ is] about 115."

On a slightly different track, as I recall, poor old AlGore Jr. was a legacy admission to Harvard, where he excelled at being quite stupid. Among other things, he made a D in elementary physics and his classmates tagged him with the nickname "Bonehead." I also understand that it almost broke AlGore Sr. to keep the kid in school.

[jblair]

Good point. Having wasted time listening/watching Bill Press, I don't think he is near the eastern slope of the IQ distribution.

[Steve_Seattle]

Well, I guess Bill Press is the moron, having fallen for a hoax that was exposed long ago. But even if all these IQ stats were true, it is a fallacy to claim that bad policy necessarily follows from a low IQ, and good policy from a high IQ. In fact, you'd have to be kind of stupid to think that.

[RightWingAtheist]

Always take the Gipper's sage advice: Trust but Verify. I make sure I do the same thing with anything I read on blogs or on FR.