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Posted on 07/24/2006 10:53:04 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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CNN Breaking news email

-- An Israeli air raid struck a United Nations observation post and killed four U.N. observers in southern Lebanon, according to Lebanese security sources.


921 posted on 07/25/2006 2:47:23 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Fitzcarraldo; Dog
00:24 UN: Observers wounded in IAF strike in Lebanon belonged to Indian contingent (AP)

The S will HTF, no matter who launched the ordinance.

922 posted on 07/25/2006 2:48:53 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Teufelhunde

What the rest of the world - who is under attack from Islamofascists - needs to do is start fighting back in massive retaliation just as Israel is (kinda) doing. Take the offensive for a change and maybe, just maybe, the I-fascists will get the message that we'll not roll over and submit. Otherwise, this junk will continue until they get their nukes.

India needs to rise up. (They already gave them Pakistan.) Enough is enough!

Thailand, which is under attack in the South, sent a million paper cranes for peace. Lot of good that did them.

Phillipines manages tit for tat attacks.

France has lost enough cars.

The good folks in the Netherlands want to walk about once again.

Australia wants her beaches back.

You get my drift.



923 posted on 07/25/2006 2:48:58 PM PDT by debg
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To: jeffers

So...you think it is a GOOD idea for Israel to give up MORE land??, to terrorists?


924 posted on 07/25/2006 2:49:36 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: monkapotamus

Israeli shell hits UN base in S. Lebanon
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-07-25T204641Z_01_L25314960_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-LEBANON-UN.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C3-worldNews-3

Israeli raid kills four UN observers
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19916575-1702,00.html

(Oh, now it's an Israeli raid... I see)s/


926 posted on 07/25/2006 2:53:24 PM PDT by AliVeritas (UNIFIL II: Hezbollah Boogaloo (Thanks Joel))
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To: cyberaxe

Bula! Thanks for that. When I lived in Hawaii, there was a consistently errant cow that kept coming over to destroy the gardens. The owner was warned and warned. Finally, we said, if that cow comes across one more time, it's a gonner. Well, that cow is a gonner. A Fiji neighbor saw to it and packed up the cuts for all the other neighbors.


927 posted on 07/25/2006 2:54:39 PM PDT by debg
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To: AdmSmith

In this assessment, Stratfor's math matches mine perfectly.

We will see what we will see.


928 posted on 07/25/2006 2:55:18 PM PDT by jeffers
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00:46 UN official confirms four U.N. peacekeepers killed in IAF strike (AP)

00:24 UN: Observers wounded in IAF strike in Lebanon belonged to Indian contingent (AP)

929 posted on 07/25/2006 2:55:58 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Txsleuth

I found it interesting that Ijaz was unshaven. Wonder why.


930 posted on 07/25/2006 2:58:07 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Txsleuth

Re withdrawal on the West Bank: I don't understand it either, except that very few politicians are able to discard their pet ideas ever.

However, I wonder if Olmert and Kadima aren't getting into hot water over this. Here is an item from Arutz Sheva.com:

Haifa Victim to Gush Katif Residents: 'I Am Sorry'
00:38 Jul 26, '06 / 1 Av 5766

(IsraelNN.com) A Haifa resident under siege by Hizbullah attacks and who ignored opponents to the government's expulsion of Gush Katif resident has written the expulsion victims and asked for forgiveness.

In an open letter posted on a Gush Katif forum web site, Y. S. wrote, "I closed my business since the beginning of the battle and I don't know what will happen. I never thought that I, a Haifa resident for 30 years, would be a refugee in my own land.

"During five years you coped with bombs, and I didn't care. Even when you came to visit me in my house, to explain, to convince, to share your feelings with me, I refused to listen to you.

"People from Gush Katif and the Shomron! Forgive me! Forgive us for not understanding you. I am not a religious man, and not a mystic person." The Haifa resident concluded that his problems are "the price that I am paying now for my late understanding."

(Gush Karif was one of the Israeli townsips in Gaza.)

I wonder how many more are starting to feel like Y.S?


931 posted on 07/25/2006 2:58:25 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: monkapotamus
Disregard all, this was earlier, four hurt, not killed. Has a nugget.

Lebanon: U.N. appeals for safe passage NAQOURA, Lebanon, July 25 (UPI) -- The U.N. mission in Lebanon remains a target amid Hezbollah-Israeli fighting, while U.N. agencies report difficulty moving humanitarian aid into Lebanon.

The U.N. Interim Force in Lebanon said Tuesday four members of its Ghanaian battalion were injured Monday evening when a tank round from the Israeli side impacted inside their position south of Rmaich, causing severe damage. The four were evacuated to the UNIFIL hospital in Naqoura, and remain in stable condition.

There were six other attacks close to UNIFIL positions from the Israeli side during the past 24 hours, UNIFIL said.

The U.N. refugee agency meanwhile reports that it has been unable to move relief supplies intended for more than 20,000 displaced persons into Lebanon. The aid has been transported to the Syria-Lebanon border from a holding center in Jordon, but the agency awaits the opening of safe passages.

"It is enormously frustrating to be right on the back doorstep of Lebanon and ready to move in with hundreds of tons of aid, but the door remains closed," spokeswoman for the U.N. High Commission for Refugees Jennifer Pagonis told reporters in Geneva. Once the agency is allowed safe access, Pagonis said, the supplies could reach Lebanese civilians in a matter of hours.

U.N. Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egeland is in the region to assess the humanitarian situation and negotiate the opening of humanitarian corridors. The trip took him to Lebanon Monday and to the Gaza Strip Tuesday. On Wednesday he will travel to the Israeli city of Haifa, which has been a steady target of Hezbollah missiles.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, also in the region, has appealed for better access for humanitarian workers seeking to deliver aid to Lebanese civilians caught in the crossfire.

http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060725-015539-6493r

932 posted on 07/25/2006 2:58:30 PM PDT by AliVeritas (UNIFIL II: Hezbollah Boogaloo (Thanks Joel))
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To: jhp
the threat is to the greater Israeli cities

But remember, the Israelis know where those missiles came from. Moving a launcher is a fairly trivial matter, moving Damascus could get a bit tricky.

The whole reason asymetrical warfare works is that the enemy doesn't have any fixed location that you can hit back at. In the Iraq war, Israel didn't hit back because we asked (warned) them not to. There wouldn't be similar restrictions regarding Syria. Israel's vulnerability in terms of large fixed population districts is precisely matched by Syria's.

933 posted on 07/25/2006 2:59:42 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: AliVeritas

bttt


934 posted on 07/25/2006 2:59:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: jeffers

Admin - thanks for posting the stratfor article. And once again they have done a great job analyzing the situation. However, i think they have oversimplified the Hizbullah war strategy, at least from a tactical point of view. I think Nasarallah will attempt to pull off a couple more surprises (overseas terrorism against Israeli interest or a missile attack into TelAviv) should the IDF come in force and subdue his short range rocket threat.


935 posted on 07/25/2006 3:00:34 PM PDT by jhp
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To: Teufelhunde

Just for context:
Security Council Weighs Extended Mandate of UNIFIL
http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/0/1C53A6194229BC06C22571B6005B3E52?OpenDocument

(grain of salt, unknown site to me)


936 posted on 07/25/2006 3:00:59 PM PDT by AliVeritas (UNIFIL II: Hezbollah Boogaloo (Thanks Joel))
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To: Txsleuth

Most definitely.

Witness this conflict, and compare it to the last. The West Bank offensive was hauled up short, right when it was becoming effective, because Israel could not claim the moral high ground, and the US reined them in.

This time around, Bush has set his feet in concrete, we're looking for a long term solution to the Hezbollah problem.

This could not have happened if Israel was still occupying Lebanon. Because they pulled out, and then were attacked unilaterally, the political equation changes in Israel's favor.

Give the enemy what they say they want, then when they try to take more by force, annihilate them, once and for all.


937 posted on 07/25/2006 3:01:08 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: ArmstedFragg

Admittedly, this is a highly unlikely scenario, but if Assad thinks he is on the way out anyhow, does he really care about what happens to Damascus. . .


938 posted on 07/25/2006 3:06:34 PM PDT by jhp
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To: jeffers
Because they pulled out, and then were attacked unilaterally, the political equation changes in Israel's favor.

A second term in the equation + for Israel is the reluctance of Lebanon to enforce 1559.

939 posted on 07/25/2006 3:06:59 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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Fox News Channel's translator always cracks me up. He sounds like a shouting Eddie Murphy doing a Saturday Night Live skit.


940 posted on 07/25/2006 3:08:50 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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