Immanuel Velikovsky.
Quota pars tanti nobis committitur?
Posted on 07/24/2006 12:03:03 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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Just read that B.P., aka Before Present and Before Physics, apparently is counted from 1950, before nuclear testing changed carbon dating. It's about as arbitrary as using the estimation of Jesus' birth, which is before major man-made explosions in general. It's also known as C.E., aka Common Era, Current Era and Christian Era.
Yes, it's known as the younger dryas period(a type of grass that proliferates in the cooler, dryer environment of ice ages). Appearently the athabasca glacier emptied into the gulf of mexico, then it melted a path thru to the St Lawrence river, dumping all that cold, fresh water into the north atlantic. That then reversed the on-going emergence from the ice age for about 1000 years, disrupting the gulf steam that warms europe, until the melt water flow returned to the gulf of mexico once again. Even here in MT/ID/WA we have clear evidence of massive, periodic floods from Lake Missoula, filling all the valleys of western MT, and gouging out the channeled scablands of western WA state, plus deepening the Columbia River basin.....This excellent report is suggesting that a supernova, possibly with a magnetic field anomoly(we know the earth's magnetic field is dynamically evolving)is primaily responsible for melting us out of the last ice age. Good, interesting science detective work!
Immanuel Velikovsky.
Quota pars tanti nobis committitur?
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That Carolina Bay article is so full of errors and misconceptions, that it is hardly worth taking seriously. I won't address all of them, but here are a few points to consider:
Although the Bay Rims date from the Pleistocene-holocene boundary, the bays themselves do not. They are contemporaneous with the fluviomarine terraces upon which they occur, and therefore, were not all formed at once, but sequentially; as sea level dropped and each new terrace was exposed, new bays were formed. The arrangement of bays on the landscape is not random; The largest bays on each terrace are concentrated just below the toe of the landward scarp, and average bay size decreases seaward along each terrace. That pattern repeats on each terrace. The phenomenon is CLEARLY hydrologic in nature, and is not related to cataclysm.
I had not heard of Douglas A. Johnson, but I came to conclusions similar to his after 11 years of mapping soils in Carolina Bays in northeastern South Carolina. Howard conveniently overlooks work done in Charleston County, South Carolina (forgive me, I can't cite the literature at the moment, but I could look it up) showing that large bays overlay infilled river channels (incisions that were refilled during a marine transgression). He also neglects the probability that any heat source sufficient to cause explosive vaporization of soil or shallow water would also probably have produced fused glass on the soil surface (the soils in the area having mostly quartz sand in the surface layer). In years of intensive field examination of soil surfaces in the area, I never once found fused glass, and I am not aware that any soil micromorphologists have found shocked quartz in surface layers from the Pee Dee.
Finally, people who plot the long axes of Carolina Bays, and look toward Michigan, are looking in the wrong direction. The bays all point DOWNHILL, i.e., seaward. They are all pointing in the direction that water travels!
I thought Al Gore said global warming was going to destroy Earth.
Yeah, I did some looking around after my comment and realized I'd spelled it wrong. At least I read his stuff.
I sure am glad I have this nifty new tinfoil hat to protect me from any more of this cataclysmic nuke action from outer space.....
IN 2101 B.C....
WAR WAS BEGINNING.
I haven't paid much attention to the Carolina Bays since (ahem) you scolded me a couple years ago. (Now, the Carolina Dog is a whole 'nother story)
Yup. We have a GGG post on that somewhere...now, if we can get SunkenCiv to use his excellent search capability to find it...
I'd be interested in reading that.
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Space boom!
So paleoindian lithic industries are Mousterian now? I doubt it; the Mousterian is mostly associated with Homo Neanderthalensis.
Many of the current systems are based on some temporary (in geologic terms)super-naturalist belief system.
It would be real difficult to have a permanent dating system since nothing is permanent (except change.)
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