Posted on 07/20/2006 12:08:29 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps calls itself a "project of the Declaration Alliance," although few MCDC volunteers know what the alliance does or why Minuteman donations are routed through the charity founded and headed by conservative activist Alan Keyes.
Several Minuteman leaders and members questioned the wisdom of ceding control over fundraising to the Herndon-based Declaration Alliance, part of an intricate weave of conservative organizations founded and chaired by Mr. Keyes or tied to longtime Keyes associates working with MCDC.
MCDC President Chris Simcox told The Washington Times that the alliance offers "an experienced organization for mass mailings, advertising and public relations" and the ability to conduct a "fully accredited and independent audit" of MCDC finances.
Mr. Simcox said he "checked these people out very carefully before agreeing to work with them" and that he made the "correct decision" in hiring "clean professional consultants, accountants and media professionals." He did not, however, disclose during an interview last week or in a 3,961-word follow-up statement how much Declaration Alliance and its affiliated organizations have been paid for their services
During the interview, he said, "Not one cent of MCDC money has been spent on alliance projects." The statement, released on the MCDC Web page, www.minutemanhq.com/hq/, does not mention Declaration Alliance or Mr. Keyes. ...."
"..Diener Consultants first contacted the Minuteman organization in early 2005, said Ms. Hair, the MCDC spokeswoman who also was a top adviser to Mr. Keyes in his presidential and senatorial races. She said she called Mr. Simcox after the Minuteman group was created to ask whether he had a media plan. After being told no, she said, she met with Mr. Simcox and Minuteman co-founder James Gilchrist in Washington and signed an agreement...."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
from your post 125:
Did some volunteer work for Jim Gilchrist when he ran for Congress, and have worked as a consultant on a number of Declaration Alliance projects, but I've never worked for Simcox or the MCDC.
whatever you say.
What are you inferring?
you generally can't be taken if you're not typically willing to go./..
I am not inferring anything and I certainly didn't stutter.
Sorry if I was mistaken.
it means duplicate names have been removed.
Ah, thank you. I thought it would be a very short list if they removed all the dupes. ;-)
BTW...where are those Open Border types?
" You know, that good old fashioned thingy that's admissable in a Court of Law."
Last I looked, this was a place where people posted opinions, not a court of law.
Just about everybody on these MM threads is being duped! But not you, surely!
That's their charter. That has nothing to do with Simcox being a crook.
De-duped = non duplicated, foo.
LOL.
Maybe for Alan Keyes Universe, they DID de-dupe the lists, leaving only the sure marks.
What first piqued my interest long ago was noticing MCDC were a"grassroots" organization with little ability to get their act together-but knew how to sign up with a professional money processing company that would collect and disburse their incoming $. (The same one Lance Armstrong's org and other cancer nonprofits have used.)
Apparently someone saw that this grassroots organization was generating intense interest and "sold" them on the benefits of using the professional company. I still don't understand why the "professional" company can't or won't produce a financial report, however.
Do you mean the FROBLs on here who have tried to defend illegal immigration from the start? They never had any credibility.
It appears that non-profits have to file reports with the IRS, but so far I can't find anything about the MCDC by searching that website - which is consistent with these newspaper reports saying that it doesn't have non-profit status yet. I did find this line, which may indicate why the MCDC isn't listed, but may not:
Subordinate units that are included in group exemption letters are not listed separately. However, the listing for the central organization indicates that contributions to subordinate units covered by the group exemption are also deductible.
It could be that MCDC is operating under Declaration Alliance's exemption, but the Declaration Alliance isn't showing up under the search of tax-exempt organizations either, although The Declaration Foundation does. The two organizations are closely related but I'm not certain what the difference is.
I found a "Form 8871 - Political Organization Notice of Section 527 Status" on the IRS search page. It gives the purpose of DAPAC as
To support efforts that increase public awareness and knowledge regarding the principles underlying the Declaration of Independence, but not to expressly advocate the election or defeat of any clearly identified candidate for public office.
Compare this with :
About DAPAC
Declaration Alliance PAC is the official campaign and ballot initiative arm of the tax-exempt Declaration Alliance.
The goals of DAPAC for 2006 are simple and straightforward:
- To defeat partisan Democrats, especially hard-core, leftwing liberals like Senators Robert Byrd and Harry Reid, and Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.
- To support endangered, scapegoated, anti-establishment conservative incumbents in Congress like Tom DeLay and Tom Tancredo, who have fought hard to stay true to our bedrock values and principles.
- To recruit real conservatives who can challenge, politically frighten, and eventually REPLACE RINO, "Money-Is-God" incumbents like John McCain, Arlen Specter, Mike DeWine, and Chris Shays.
- To pass pro-life, pro-family, anti-tax, pro-sovereignty, pro-traditional values, anti-big government, pro-property rights, pro-second amendment legislation and ballot initiatives across the U.S.
- To retake the leadership of the GOP where it has been captured by pro-abortion, anti-family, pro-tax, antimilitary, pro-big government, anti-gun rights, "open borders" liberals in "blue states" like California, New Jersey, and Illinois.
Something looks a tiny bit deceptive to me.
It could be that MCDC is operating under Declaration Alliance's exemption, but the Declaration Alliance isn't showing up under the search of tax-exempt organizations either,
You can a do wrong without breaking a law, and that's what appears to be happening here; breaking a trust is not breaking the law.
So many people here continue to make a basic mistake on this subject, and I think you're one of them.
You and many others believe that people who disagree with your ideas on how to properly handle the issue of border control and the presence of millions of illegal aliens on our soil, are not passionate about immigration law enforcement...that's simply wrong.
The fact that I may disagree on what you believe to be the solution to a problem only means that I disagree with your idea, not with the whole concept of immigration law enforcement.
This idea that your either for or against border enforcement based on whether or not one agrees with your idea of what the solution to the problem, is illogical...your solution may be wrong.
Disagreeing on what the solution may be does not make me less of a conservative than you, or you more of a conservative then me. It does not make you more passionate on the subject of immigration law enforcement than I am, nor me less passionate about it than you, and it certainly does not make me automatically wrong and you automatically right.
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