Posted on 07/19/2006 2:29:17 PM PDT by varyouga
Just saw on CNN that 23 tons of explosives were dropped on a Hezbollah bunker. Top Hezbollah officials are believed to have been inside.
No story on the website yet.
Oh yeah.
That's about how far I was from some 2,000 pounders dropped by AF Reserve F-105s at a firepower demo at Ft. Sill, when I was a junior AF officer. It was like getting smacked in the chest or stomach by someone your own size and weight. Too your breath away it did.
"Hope they hit the terror jackpot."
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If not, another hidey hole for the cretins is gone...
Missile decoys. The hope is that the IR seeker on a missile will follow one of the flares, at least momentarily.
But if they came one at a time onto the same aim point, they could very well dig down 100 feet.
I was referring to 105mm arty cannon. The 155mm is somewhat of a step up from that, and 203mm isn't all that much more either...
I'm telling you that the percussion was incredible. They're showing on TV these "wooshes" going out. BULLSHIT!
I heard that crap coming outbound from 18 miles away. I don't need to tell you what I heard on the receiving end. Based on CEP, I'm guessing the closest rounds during the "barrage" landed outside of 500 yds. I know what 23 Lbs of HE is capable of.
23 tons is stupendously mind-blowing. Earlier there was a link to a 500#'re could do, and that was about 500 yds away... The videographer said so, and you seen it, it knocked him on his ass.
23 tons of TNT was heard all the way to Syria (without doubt it was heard all over Lebanon).
When I was working with the air-to-mud guys at Nellis back in the mid-1970s, I seem to recall that they believed they'd need a kiloton range device to get a serious bunker 100+ feet down.
Sure, the blast of a 2000# bomb is spectacular, but the blast is mostly directed up and away unless it's directed or a penetrator is used. Same thing with artillery, which was my thing. Even a 2400# 16" common shell (high explosive to us army types) wouldn't penetrate the 10" armored deck of a third generation dreadnought - takes AP and a good angle. Even 16" AP is unlikely to go through the 18" armor belt of a third generation dreadnought. 23 tons of bombs is not much more than the equivalent of one main battery salvo from an Iowa-class dreadnought.
So, color me unimpressed with 23 tons of bombs.
Half-measure, I'd say.
i love the sound of snorting in the mourning of hezbulla officials.
have a great texas day.
teeman
'You are correct. AMZ was killed with standard HE type bombs. The building he was in was isolated so there was no need to use concrete bombs.'
I'm guessing as an HVT they would have used HE in any case. As it turned out, he died from the blast not the frags so it is a good thing they played relative hardball. Additional damage vs. collateral.
Can't be very many virgins left in 'paradise' .
Bit worrying for the sheep.
Yeah. Just dropping 46,000 pounds of frozen turkeys would hurt. And it's kind of fun to imagine.
"Oh the hugh manatee!"
Yeah....
But wouldn't 23 Tons, regardless of if the bunker itself was destroyed, pretty much seal them in?
(Here's your tomb Biotch!)
Well, that depends on how many ways out there are and how deep they are. It would be SOP to have multiple exits, with at least one or two of them starting by going down deeper than the bunker itself for some distance before coming to the surface in a reasonable remote (and innocuous looking) location.
Why hold back... go for the Basic Instinct 2 / It's Pat double feature!
Did they blow up real good?
It's a lot dropped all at once in one small area.
Rinse. Repeat.
So long as we get them back in one piece, of course.
Has he showed up anywhere yet?
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