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7/17 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1666537/posts?page=3202 ^ | 7/17/06 | me

Posted on 07/16/2006 11:11:16 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

09:02 Amir Peretz: We won`t stop fighting before achieving our objectives (Haaretz)

08:52 Barrage of Katyusha rockets hits Kiryat Shmona (Itim)

08:48 IDF arrested 12 wanted Palestinian militants in overnight West Bank raids (Itim)

08:32 Two Qassam rockets land in Ashkelon; no casualties or damage reported (Channel 10)

08:07 One IDF soldier lightly injured in fighting in northern Gaza Strip (Israel Radio)

07:57 Asia-Pacific officials working to evacuate citizens from Lebanon (AP)

07:31 Rocket barrage slams into Safed; no immediate report of casualties, damage (Haaretz)

07:30 Two people lightly injured in Acre from rocket hits (Haaretz)

07:21 Alarm sirens heard in Tiberias, no hits reported as yet (Channel 10)

07:20 Two people lightly wounded by sharpnel in Qassam hits on Sderot (Haaretz)

07:07 Lebanese: IDF attacks Beirut port; large fire breaks out (AP)

07:00 Third Qassam rocket hits Sderot; no casualties reported (Haaretz)

06:56 IDF soldier injured in Beit Hanun (Haaretz)

06:49 Katyusha rocket hits community near northern town of Acre; 4 people injured (Haaretz)

06:43 Two loud explosions rock southern suburbs of Beirut (AP)

06:37 Two Qassam rockets hit Sderot; no casualties (Israel Radio)

06:16 Lebanese: 17 fatalities, 9 of them soldiers, in latest round of IDF strikes (Israel Radio)

06:13 Qassam rocket hits western Negev; no casualties (Israel Radio)

06:08 IAF strikes over 50 targets in Lebanon in overnight attacks (Israel Radio)

06:05 IDF says air raid sirens in Haifa were false alarm (Israel Radio)

06:03 Air raid sirens sound in Haifa (AP)

05:46 IDF: Lebanese military involved in Friday attack on Israeli ship (AP)

05:43 IDF: Radar stations targeted were used in Friday attack on Israeli ship (AP)

05:37 IDF: Latest attacks in Lebanon are against radar stations used by Hezbollah (AP)

05:13 Israel blames Hizbollah after Canadian deaths in southern Lebanon (Reuters)

04:35 Oil surges back toward record highs after weekend of Middle East violence (Reuters)

04:13 13 killed, including 8 soldiers, in renewed overnight IDF attacks in Lebanon (AP)

03:21 EU foreign ministers discuss diplomatic options in effort to end Mideast violence (AP)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollah; hizballah; hizbullah; iran; islam; israel; jihad; middleeast; muhammadsminions; syria; terrorism; terrorists; ww3
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To: Txsleuth

See the little text by Dallas-Ft Worth? *That'*s the one that says both Hamas and Hezbollah. And yet people keep lumping Houston in with NYC, Detroit, and others because we supposedly have "both."

See the little text by HOUSTON? It does not mention Hezbollah at all.

It's scary sometimes that people here don't know the difference between two enormous cities half an enormous state apart. /rant off


1,261 posted on 07/17/2006 11:33:04 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Txsleuth

Very scary map.


1,262 posted on 07/17/2006 11:33:21 AM PDT by processing please hold
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To: Rte66

Progressive Democrats have issued a formal statement condemning Israel and America's support for her:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667293/posts


1,263 posted on 07/17/2006 11:33:58 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: Chuck54

There was a lady on Fox news this weekend complaining that they couldnt go to the beach anymore. I dont see how paying the market rate to Cyprus is going to break any of their banks....they all must have unused return tickets....they can probably get changes or credits. To be summering in Beirut, it isnt exactly your typical American crowd.


1,264 posted on 07/17/2006 11:35:02 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Southack

We need to make John Bolton the new Sherrif in '08 somehow.


1,265 posted on 07/17/2006 11:35:49 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Chuck54; pgkdan

As I understand it, the US military will get you out of Lebanon, and land you in Cyprus. No charge....from there it's your own dime to get home...seems fair..


1,266 posted on 07/17/2006 11:36:08 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Chuck54

Presumably they would have had to pay to get back home at some point anyway, even if they left under normal circumstances, so I don't see what the big deal is for them. I was very disappointed to find that we had such a pack of whiners over there.


1,267 posted on 07/17/2006 11:38:39 AM PDT by livius
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To: BurbankKarl

I wonder if ISRAEL has more luck getting the MSM to do as they ask than our POTUS??


1,268 posted on 07/17/2006 11:38:53 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Peach
Progressive Democrats have issued a formal statement condemning Israel and America's support for her:

Strange, but stranger still is the fact that the Jewish community in the US votes very heavily democratic. It just doesn't make any sense.

1,269 posted on 07/17/2006 11:39:40 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: BurbankKarl

I agree. I don't think the cruise ship transportation to Cyprus would be free gratis from the cruise ship organization, and I don't think the U.S. should be expected to pick up the tab.

Send a bill, expect to be paid.


1,270 posted on 07/17/2006 11:40:30 AM PDT by Chuck54 ("A truly wealthy man is one who can live his life as he wishes.")
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To: All

"..."No Arab state has done that since [former Egyptian president Gamel] Nasser did it in 1967..."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1822213,00.html

A competent military force that should not be underestimated, experts say

Brian Whitaker in Beirut and Robert Tait in Tehran

Monday July 17, 2006

The Guardian

Hizbullah will not only take war to Haifa, but "beyond Haifa, and beyond beyond Haifa", its leader, Hassan Nasrallah, said in a televised speech last week - and some experts are prepared to believe him.

"When they say things, they mean it. They don't bluff," said Nicholas Noe, a Cambridge researcher who is editing a book of Mr Nasrallah's speeches.

Mr Nasrallah's address on Friday ended with the news that Hizbullah had hit an Israeli naval vessel off the Lebanese coast, which might be relatively insignificant in military terms, but had a massive psychological impact. "No Arab state has done that since [former Egyptian president Gamel] Nasser did it in 1967," Mr Noe said.

Few experts doubt the militant Shia organisation's standing. Mark Perry of the Beirut-based Conflicts Forum said in a recent interview with Prospect magazine: "Hizbullah is the second or third most competent military force in the region, after Israel and Iran."

Unusually, Hizbullah makes a habit of announcing what it intends to do in advance. It said it was planning to capture Israeli soldiers, and did so. It also stated openly, before the latest conflict began, that it had 12,000 rockets - more than 700 of which have now been fired. Most experts believe the real figure is higher.

A more important question is how many rockets are readily usable. Unlike national armies, Hizbullah does not keep them in arsenals. They are widely dispersed in houses, caves and other hiding places: hence the Israeli tactic of blasting roads and bridges in the hope of preventing their transportation.

Most of the rockets are 107mm and 122mm Katyushas with a short range, but, according to Israeli sources, Hizbullah also has Fajr-3 missiles with a 25-mile range and Fajr-5 rockets which can reach 45 miles. The Hizbullah television station recently broadcast pictures of new, long-range missiles known as Zelzal-1 and Zelzal-2. There have been claims that these could strike as far as Israel's nuclear plant in the Negev desert.

No one really knows how many Hizbullah fighters there are, said Amal Saad-Ghorayeb, who has written a book on the organisation. "Because it's a populist grassroots movement, every household [in the Hizbullah areas] has family members who could be easily mobilised ... I think the Israelis are fully aware that demolishing Hizbullah is virtually impossible," she said.

Iran denied yesterday that it was supplying Hizbullah with weapons to use against Israel and dismissed accusations that its troops had helped the group launch recent attacks. But a foreign ministry spokesman, Hamid Reza Asefi, appeared to warn that Iran would act if Israel expanded its operations to include Syria, Tehran's close ally. "Expanding the front of aggression and attacks ... would definitely face the Zionist regime with unimaginable damages," Mr Asefi said.

1,271 posted on 07/17/2006 11:40:34 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: BurbankKarl
There was a lady on Fox news this weekend complaining that they couldnt go to the beach anymore. I dont see how paying the market rate to Cyprus is going to break any of their banks....they all must have unused return tickets....they can probably get changes or credits. To be summering in Beirut, it isnt exactly your typical American crowd. _______________________________________________________ Apparently she didn't hear from Kilgore that it was safe at the beach.
1,272 posted on 07/17/2006 11:40:51 AM PDT by racing fan (Go Israel!)
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To: Chuck54

I heard that interview yesterday...he was by far, the most hysterical and critical of all of the people I have heard interviewed...

And I agree with you...I'm not as sympathetic to his situation because of it.


1,273 posted on 07/17/2006 11:41:03 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: ken5050

Reports in MSM that I saw this morning said they will be charged the cost of a commerical airplane flight from Beirut to Cyprus, then they're on their own.

That was even if they go by ship or however we get them to Cyprus, "air bridge" or otherwise.


1,274 posted on 07/17/2006 11:42:58 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

I am sure some will complain about that too....


1,275 posted on 07/17/2006 11:44:44 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Rte66

Well...that sucks...


1,276 posted on 07/17/2006 11:44:47 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Txsleuth

Good question. I'm in. If y'all wanna send me a note if you hear anything about getting Rebel back, I'd appreciate it.

Also, if I hear anything, I'll ping ya.


1,277 posted on 07/17/2006 11:45:43 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: BurbankKarl

There was another I saw where a Lebanese person was complaining about "only getting leaflets" in advance of an Israeli attack (dropped by the Israelis, no less) - and "they" (those in Haifa and elsewhere in Israel) got sirens!


1,278 posted on 07/17/2006 11:46:25 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

LOL..I totally agree with you...I used to have to drive to Houston and back every week..I KNOW how far away they are...and to lump them together is ridiculous.

Stay safe down there.


1,279 posted on 07/17/2006 11:46:50 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Rte66

"French Fairy flew in, I mean, motored in..."

Ha! YooHoo Fox guy talking about a French Ferry. I wonder if that was an intentional dig? LOL

(off topic: Humor me

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1667306/posts )


1,280 posted on 07/17/2006 11:46:54 AM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX)
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