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7/16 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666163/posts ^ | 7/16/06 | me

Posted on 07/15/2006 11:24:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

09:19 MDA: More than 20 people hurt in Katyusha rocket strike in Haifa (Channel 2)

09:16 Residents of Acre, Haifa and its suburbs told to enter bomb shelters (Israel Radio)

09:15 Tenth Katyusha rocket lands in Haifa (Israel Radio)

09:15 Explosions heard in Rosh Hanikra (Israel Radio)

09:11 Katyusha rockets hit Acre and suburbs around Haifa Bay (Channel 2)

09:06 Report: Three to five explosion heard in central Haifa (Israel Radio)

08:47 Chirac: Forces threatening Lebanon`s security, sovereignty must be stopped (AP)

08:41 Sgt. Tal Amgar killed on Navy ship to be buried 16.00 Sun. at Ashdod cemetery (Itim)

08:39 Chirac calls for `show of moderation` in Lebanon, says cease-fire needed (Reuters)

08:37 IDF denies report of air raid on power station south of Beirut (Haaretz)

08:36 Hezbollah says it fought off attempt by IDF ground forces to cross Lebanese border (AP)

08:35 Bush urges Israel `to be mindful of the consequences` of its military actions (AP)

08:19 Jewish man arrested after threatening to stab Palestinians in J`lem`s Old City (Itim)

08:15 Al Manar: Nasrallah to give an interview later Sunday to prove he`s well (Israel Radio)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; islam; melivethread; middleeast; muhammadsminions; ww3; wwiii
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To: TheDon

She is a rat, Big Time!


1,121 posted on 07/16/2006 10:55:06 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? Dubbed Bushbot 2 by Bushbot 1 :)>)
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To: Peach

non-partisan = less than full disclosure


1,122 posted on 07/16/2006 10:55:32 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: TexKat

Here's what Fox News has:

Raw Data: G8 Statement on the Middle East

Sunday , July 16, 2006




Today, we the G8 Leaders express our deepening concern about the situation in the Middle East, in particular the rising civilian casualties on all sides and the damage to infrastructure. We are united in our determination to pursue efforts to restore peace. We offer our full support for the U.N. Secretary General's mission presently in the region.

The root cause of the problems in the region is the absence of a comprehensive Middle East peace.

The immediate crisis results from efforts by extremist forces to destabilize the region and to frustrate the aspirations of the Palestinian, Israeli and Lebanese people for democracy and peace. In Gaza, elements of Hamas launched rocket attacks against Israeli territory and abducted an Israeli soldier. In Lebanon, Hezbollah, in violation of the Blue Line, attacked Israel from Lebanese territory and killed and captured Israeli soldiers, reversing the positive trends that began with the Syrian withdrawal in 2005, and undermining the democratically elected government of Prime Minister Fuad Siniora.

These extremist elements and those that support them cannot be allowed to plunge the Middle East into chaos and provoke a wider conflict. The extremists must immediately halt their attacks.

It is also critical that Israel, while exercising the right to defend itself, be mindful of the strategic and humanitarian consequences of its actions. We call upon Israel to exercise utmost restraint, seeking to avoid casualties among innocent civilians and damage to civilian infrastructure and to refrain from acts that would destabilize the Lebanese government.

The most urgent priority is to create conditions for a cessation of violence that will be sustainable and lay the foundation for a more permanent solution. This, in our judgment, requires:

--The return of the Israeli soldiers in Gaza and Lebanon unharmed;

--An end to the shelling of Israeli territory;

--An end to Israeli military operations and the early withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza;

--The release of the arrested Palestinian ministers and parliamentarians.

--The framework for resolving these disputes is already established by international consensus.

In Lebanon, UN Security Council Resolutions 1559 and 1680 address the underlying conditions that gave rise to this crisis. We urge the U.N. Security Council to develop a plan for the full implementation of these resolutions.

We extend to the Government of Lebanon our full support in asserting its sovereign authority over all its territory in fulfillment of UNSCR 1559. This includes the deployment of Lebanese Armed Forces to all parts of the country, in particular the South, and the disarming of militias. We would welcome an examination by the U.N. Security Council of the possibility of an international security/monitoring presence.

We also support the initiation of a political dialogue between Lebanese and Israeli officials on all issues of concern to both parties. In addition, we will support the economic and humanitarian needs of the Lebanese people, including the convening at the right time of a donors conference.

In Gaza, the disengagement of Israel provided an opportunity to move a further step toward a two state solution under the Road Map. All Palestinian parties should accept the existence of Israel, reject violence, and accept all previous agreements and obligations, including the Road Map. For its part, Israel needs to refrain from unilateral acts that could prejudice a final settlement and agree to negotiate in good faith.

Our goal is an immediate end to the current violence, a resumption of security cooperation and of a political engagement both among Palestinians and with Israel. This requires:

--An end to terrorist attacks against Israel;

--A resumption of the efforts of President Abbas to ensure that the Palestinian government complies with the Quartet principles;

--Immediate expansion of the temporary international mechanism for donors established under the direction of the Quartet;

--Israeli compliance with the Agreement on Movement and Access of November 2005 and action on other steps to ease the humanitarian plight of the people of Gaza and the West Bank;

--Resumption of security cooperation between Palestinians and Israelis;

--Action to ensure that the Palestinian security forces comply with Palestinian law and with the Road Map, so that they are unified and effective in providing security for the Palestinian people;

--Resumption of dialogue between Palestinian and Israeli political officials.

These proposals are our contribution to the international effort underway to restore calm to the Middle East and provide a basis for progress towards a sustainable peace, in accordance with the relevant U.N. Security Council resolutions. The Quartet will continue to play a central role. The G8 welcomes the positive efforts of Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan as well as other responsible regional actors to return the region to peace. We look forward to the report of the Secretary General's mission to the Security Council later this week which we believe could provide a framework for achieving our common objectives.



1,123 posted on 07/16/2006 10:56:25 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? Dubbed Bushbot 2 by Bushbot 1 :)>)
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To: ohioWfan
The world's literally gone mad...

Have you just now reached that conclusion ohioWfan. My head has been bouncing off the wall for some time now.

1,124 posted on 07/16/2006 10:57:14 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

I remember him crouching breathlessly under the window sill of his hotel room in Baghdad during the first gulf war. If he had waited around a bit he could have put his desk next to Bagdad Bob's, like two peas in a pod!


1,125 posted on 07/16/2006 10:58:11 AM PDT by united1000 ("The price of greatness is responsibility. " Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: ohioWfan

"I just heard Chris Dodd blame President Bush for this crisis because he wasn't as 'engaged' in the ME as Clinton was."

Those are the talking points that the Dems have handed out to feed to the media. Jane Harmon was on this morning, blaming Bush for Hezbollah building up the arsenal in Lebanon, as always stating that the War in Iraq is somehow related.


1,126 posted on 07/16/2006 10:58:19 AM PDT by RouxStir (No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: RDTF
has Sweden lost their mind? scroll on CNN said they are evacuating their people to Syria, using 10 50 seater buses taking 9 hours to get there.

target rich environment!

Mostly "new" Swedes, hint, hint.

Seriously though Sweden's Foreign Office claims it has got guarantees of a free passage from Israel, Hezbollah and the Lebanese government.

According to Swedish media the first group of 500 Swedes reached Syrian border safely.

1,127 posted on 07/16/2006 10:58:32 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: rogator
It sounds to me like the beginning of a Scandinavian joke.

LOL

If 10 buses left Damascus headed East at 44.6 MPH, with 61 passengers, not counting goats, and 8 buses left Beirut headed West at 41.8 MPH with 44 passengers, not counting caged chickens, how long before they crash head on and what would be the # of killed and injured, not counting goats and chickens, on each bus?

1,128 posted on 07/16/2006 10:58:43 AM PDT by Chuck54 ("What you take to Vegas, stays in Vegas.")
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To: cibco
Lebanese Prime Minister is on CNN.

Is he crying yet?...

Trying to defuse the crisis, Lebanon's Western-backed, anti-Syrian prime minister indicated Saturday night he might send his army to take control of southern Lebanon from Hezbollah guerrillas - a top U.N. demand but also a move that might risk civil war.

Choking back tears, Prime Minister Fuad Saniora went on television to plead with the United Nations to broker a cease-fire for his "disaster-stricken nation."

1,129 posted on 07/16/2006 10:59:01 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: KJC1

The Israeli pullouts were very politically astute moves in the international arena. It's very, very hard to blame the Israelis for current events, unless you miss the old days during WWII when Jews acted more properly about being massacred to extinction. < /sarcasm >


1,130 posted on 07/16/2006 10:59:11 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: KJC1
And if it is, the Syrian Ambassador just lied his butt off because he said Syria was in fact letting Americans in.

I was hollering, "Liar!" at the tv when he was spouting that. As if any American in their right mind would ever consider crossing the Syrian border willingly.

1,131 posted on 07/16/2006 11:01:25 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: ohioWfan
The insanity of the left has reached epic proportions.

Unfortunately, it's reached the point that they mistake their insanity for rationality. And the rationality of others as ignorance.

Which means you simply cannot deal with them in good faith - as has been said before, you cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not use reason to get to in the first place. All we really can do is continually work to marginalize them. The only cure for the Vietnam liberal is death - they will hold these views until they die and their views will only grow more caustic and absurd with age.

1,132 posted on 07/16/2006 11:01:46 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: michigander

Fox just reported choppers are going in to pick up the Americans.


1,133 posted on 07/16/2006 11:02:03 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: KJC1

I saw that. The Leb just keeps talking about the 1948-9 agreement....WTH is that? (lazy day)


1,134 posted on 07/16/2006 11:02:45 AM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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To: Chuck54

rebel_yell said they are not letting Americans across the boarder into Syria if they do get there.......


1,135 posted on 07/16/2006 11:03:04 AM PDT by united1000 ("The price of greatness is responsibility. " Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: RouxStir

It would be a nice play to have the Israelis help out in the War On Terror under the pretext of defending themselves from Hezbollah and Syria. The Israeli pullouts could have been part of a plan to bring about the current Israeli offensive against Hezbollah and Syria. If Iran interferes, the US has the pretext to take out the Iranian regime. Checkmate.


1,136 posted on 07/16/2006 11:03:44 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: mtbopfuyn; All

I've gotta get outta here and get my NASCAR Fix.

You know how us Southern Rednecks are.

Braves baseball next, but I think I can keep up with the threads and baseball. Baseball is slow but very calming.

Not so with NASCAR.


1,137 posted on 07/16/2006 11:04:11 AM PDT by Chuck54 ("What you take to Vegas, stays in Vegas.")
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To: united1000

boarder = border


1,138 posted on 07/16/2006 11:04:43 AM PDT by united1000 ("The price of greatness is responsibility. " Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: defconw

Thanks defconw!


1,139 posted on 07/16/2006 11:04:50 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Chuck54

If 10 buses left Damascus headed East at 44.6 MPH, with 61 passengers, not counting goats, and 8 buses left Beirut headed West at 41.8 MPH with 44 passengers, not counting caged chickens, how long before they crash head on and what would be the # of killed and injured, not counting goats and chickens, on each bus?

Orange?

1,140 posted on 07/16/2006 11:05:05 AM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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