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NTSB looks into whether laptop batteries caused UPS plane fire
ajc.com/business ^ | 07/13/06 | KIMBERLY HEFLING

Posted on 07/13/2006 8:29:44 AM PDT by rawhide

WASHINGTON — Did laptop batteries aboard a UPS cargo plane catch fire, causing it to ignite into flames?

The National Transportation Safety Board began looking into the question at a hearing Wednesday.

All three crew members on the plane owned by the Sandy Springs-based delivery giant were treated for minor injuries after it made an emergency landing shortly after midnight Feb. 8 at the Philadelphia airport.

The crew declared an emergency on approach into Philadelphia. Fire and rescue crews met the four-engine jet, a DC-8 that originated in Atlanta, when it touched down shortly after midnight.

Firefighters said the blaze was under control about four hours later, although the charred plane smoldered for hours.

Several other incidents have occurred in recent years in which lithium batteries — used in laptops and cell phones — have caught fire aboard airplanes.

Less than two months ago in Chicago, a spare laptop battery packed in a bag stored in an overhead bin started emitting smoke, chief crash investigator Frank Hilldrup of the NTSB testified Wednesday.

A flight attendant used an extinguisher and the bag was removed, but the bag caught fire on a ramp, Hilldrup said.

Investigators in the Philadelphia fire found that several computer laptop batteries were on board the plane, and that in many cases portions of the laptop batteries had burned, he said.

"It is not known at this time the role these batteries may have played in the fire," Hilldrup said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlines; airplane; batteries; battery; fire; laptop; lithium; lithiumbatteries; ups
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Lithium ion batteries are sometimes referred to as "rechargeable" or "secondary" lithium batteries. They, along with primary or "non-rechargeable" lithium batteries, can present fire hazards because of the heat often generated when they are damaged or suffer a short circuit.

It is expected to take several months for the NTSB to reach a conclusion about the cause of the fire in Philadelphia, although several hazardous materials on board the plane have been determined not to be the cause. The NTSB is also examining other related issues such what can be done to make cargo flights safer and the overall emergency response to the incident.

In 1999, a shipment of lithium batteries ignited after it was unloaded from a passenger jet at Los Angeles International Airport. Another shipment erupted into flames in Memphis in 2004 when it was being loaded onto a FedEx plane bound for Paris.

1 posted on 07/13/2006 8:29:47 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Ruh-roh!! Watches are next!


2 posted on 07/13/2006 8:30:33 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: TommyDale

A DC-8 ? How old is this old dog ?


3 posted on 07/13/2006 8:32:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: rawhide

Where's the protesters? Time to ban lithium batteries.


4 posted on 07/13/2006 8:33:02 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: rawhide

W's fault!


5 posted on 07/13/2006 8:34:37 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I'm wondering if that isn't really an MD-80? I haven't seen a DC-8 since flying on one in China in 1984, and it was scary old then!


6 posted on 07/13/2006 8:35:37 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: rawhide
I bet they were for Dell brand laptop computers...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1657040/posts

7 posted on 07/13/2006 8:36:02 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: TommyDale

A DC-8 would be a 4 engine airplane. MD-80 would be 2 engine.


8 posted on 07/13/2006 8:38:02 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Really old. But, UPS re-engined all of theirs with GE (CFM) engines. It's an old airframe, but UPS has kept them in excellent condition.


9 posted on 07/13/2006 8:38:03 AM PDT by Dr. Ed Bravo (Contact "StarCMC" to join the Patriot Guard Riders ping list.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Yes, I know that, but I haven't seen a UPS flying a DC-8.


10 posted on 07/13/2006 8:39:36 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: Dr. Ed Bravo
I recall a charter airline DC-8 crashed a few years ago with a lot of US Army casualties...
Northwest Airlines had a bunch of them in the 1960s I think.
11 posted on 07/13/2006 8:40:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: TommyDale
UPS Air Cargo Aircraft, showing DC-8s in the current fleet.
12 posted on 07/13/2006 8:41:05 AM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton

I guess I need to consider shipping on another carrier? I have never noticed it before! LOL!


13 posted on 07/13/2006 8:42:02 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: rawhide

NO, this never happens to laptops' batteries..........

14 posted on 07/13/2006 8:44:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: rawhide

15 posted on 07/13/2006 8:44:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: TommyDale

Here is a photo if the plane in question:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5673655


16 posted on 07/13/2006 8:47:38 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
Dell laptop explodes:


17 posted on 07/13/2006 8:48:12 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Why aren't lawyers ever accused of price gouging?)
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To: rawhide

Firefighters battle the blaze on the plane at Philadelphia International Airport.

18 posted on 07/13/2006 8:49:44 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The cargo companies fly a lot of old crap because they don't have to cater to passengers. The stuff is usually in tip-top mechanical shape, but looks like hell on the inside.


19 posted on 07/13/2006 8:49:49 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: rawhide

hmmmm...

I've seen laptop batteries smoke, fizzle and pop, but i've never watched one start a fire before.

We kinda had a problem with the power in Iraq. It was all 220 and we received a shipment of 110 laptops. Not only did it fry the power supply, it would fry the batteries as well.

Fun stuff, but damn did it Stink.


20 posted on 07/13/2006 8:50:03 AM PDT by MikefromOhio
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