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I'd certainly prefer Rudy to Hillary. I might get flamed, but I'd prefer him over McCain too.
1 posted on 07/08/2006 8:12:31 AM PDT by mathprof
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"I might get flamed.."

I might get flamed too, but I'll vote for him if he runs.


2 posted on 07/08/2006 8:14:17 AM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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Not too hard to pick Rudy over a known Marxist and a absolute nutjob.

He'll play hell getting the Nomination, though.


3 posted on 07/08/2006 8:15:09 AM PDT by digger48
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Desperate times, desparate measures.

I disagree with some of his stances. But I think the single biggest issue we are facing right now is the War on Terror. I would rather vote for a canadate who I think would do well on the biggest issue we are facing then to get someone who might be 100% in line with my views but not as capable a leader in the War on Terror.

I'd back him.


4 posted on 07/08/2006 8:15:47 AM PDT by Ueriah
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Republican insiders respond to these numbers by saying rank-and-file GOP voters will abandon Giuliani once they realize his position on abortion, gay rights and gun control. Party strategists calculate that if he actually runs, he must change on at least one of these issues.

Gun control, I hope.

5 posted on 07/08/2006 8:17:40 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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Republican insiders respond to these numbers by saying rank-and-file GOP voters will abandon Giuliani once they realize his position on abortion, gay rights and gun control.

No insider - but this is a "Duh!" statement of the highest magnitude.

Rudy and McManiac, for that matter, have NO chance. That's zero / zilch / nada!

7 posted on 07/08/2006 8:19:28 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the Right thing. Be a monthly donor. Pretty please.)
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Hell, No.

Rudy had his chance to take on Hillary for the Senate seat. He could have made an excellent NY Senator.

Way too liberal for the rest of the country.


8 posted on 07/08/2006 8:19:44 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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The first WashDC insider to report that Rudy Giuliani will try and buck the system, becoming the first full fledged liberal Republican to EVER be nominated for President.

Will conservatives vote for a pro-big government, pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-illegal immigrant and pro-homo rights candidate? Giuliani is a solid northeast liberal. A NYCity liberal. Is this what America wants as a leader? I don't think so.

Btw, is Rudy a better choice then John McCain? The choice would be between Giuliani the liberal and McCain the mavarick/moderate-conservative. Think about it.


10 posted on 07/08/2006 8:23:07 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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At minimum, I hope he dives in. He's be a great addition to the fray.


11 posted on 07/08/2006 8:24:18 AM PDT by zarf (Italian Kid: My father can beat up your father! Jewish Kid: Big deal, so can my mother!)
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Ditto.


12 posted on 07/08/2006 8:25:47 AM PDT by GSlob
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Rudy for President? No, no, he's always getting put down by Russell, no way he's smart enough.


14 posted on 07/08/2006 8:29:56 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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There is no way Hillary will be the Dem nominee. She is a horrible speaker and a crappy campaigner. So you don't have to worry about a Rudy Hillary match-up. I want a conservative. Someone who will perpetuate Bush's war on terror and Reagan's war on government. No more compassion. I love W but i think on spending and immigration he just tried to make everyone happy and in the end no one was. I think the person who can do this is Newt Gingrich. I was skeptical of him but watching him speak on C-Span last month he blew me away with his ideas. And they weren't Utopian pie in the sky platitudes they were real tangible goals.


16 posted on 07/08/2006 8:33:52 AM PDT by slowhand520
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Who was on the list? I just question these polls that offer us a list of candidates no Republican I know would choose.

Rudy would be a fine pick for a different job. But he is a social liberal with a mess of a personal history. Nice guy but wrong choice for President.

19 posted on 07/08/2006 8:37:59 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Go Rudy!


25 posted on 07/08/2006 8:41:13 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; JohnnyZ; Kuksool; William Creel; Coop; Clemenza; ...

Rudy Giuliani is like Joe Lieberman, someone who is very good on national security issues but is extremely liberal on abortion (even opposing the partial-birth abortion ban!), taxes, guns, special rights for gays, and most other issues. Maybe I'm being a bit unfair when I say that Rudy is just like Lieberman, since Rudy is a lot tougher on crime than is Lieberman, but the reality is that Rudy's issue positions are a lot closer to those of a liberal Democrat such as Lieberman (who, belying Kossite whinings, actually had an ACU rating of 0 last year) than to those of a moderate-to-conservative Republican such as John McCain. I thought I would never support a third-party candidate for the presidency, but if GOP primary voters are stupid enough to nominate Rudy Giuliani in 2008, I will have to support (to my chagrin) the Constitution Party nominee or maybe an independent candidacy by a conservative who doesn't want the election to be a choice between two liberal extremists.

As I have said before, I think that Rudy's positions on national security and crime are so good that I would support him for Governor of NY or even for U.S. Senator (I almost never support a pro-abort for the Senate, since they tend to vote against conservative judicial nominees, but this being NY I'd make an exception), but there is no way that he can be the GOP presidential or VP nominee without destroying our party.


28 posted on 07/08/2006 8:42:19 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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I'll take Hillary! over Rudy or McInsane. I figure that four years of her (IF she lasts that long) and this country won't vote for a crat for president for at least forty years.


30 posted on 07/08/2006 8:43:53 AM PDT by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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Party strategists calculate that if he actually runs, he must change on at least one of these issues.

LOL. Now that's a principled conservative for you.

34 posted on 07/08/2006 8:47:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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"I'd certainly prefer Rudy to Hillary. I might get flamed, but I'd prefer him over McCain too."

Agreed on Rudy over Hillary or McPain, but you don't have to look too far to find a better Conservative than Rudy.

Right now, George Allen will make an interesting candidate IMO. But its early yet.

45 posted on 07/08/2006 8:57:17 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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I'd vote for him.


55 posted on 07/08/2006 9:01:41 AM PDT by Porterville (Hispanic Republican American Bush Supporter)
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Unbelievable. Anti-2nd Amendment, pro-abortion on demand, and gay marriage supporter and most of the comments on this thread are supportive for Rudy as POTUS??? If the standards aren't higher for POTUS than this we're doomed.
How is Rudy on illegal immigration? Last I heard he likes the senate amnesty bill. Just great!


61 posted on 07/08/2006 9:06:22 AM PDT by Mogollon
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Why the heck would any conservative vote for Giuliani, McCain or Hagel in a republican primary. No thanks!


65 posted on 07/08/2006 9:09:16 AM PDT by NapkinUser
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